commissioner turman? commissioner turman: thank you, president mazzucco. to follow up on the visitation valley community meeting, what i particularly enjoyed about it was can't mahoney's presentation on the recent activities and initiatives that have been started in his precinct and wondering if there is a mechanism in place, chief, where the captains are able to share those ideas with each other. i was particularly intrigued by his -- i can't think of the name of that program, the program that zeroed in on drivers and who were listening to -- on headphones or texting or doing illegal activity while they were actually driving. i thought it was an interesting program. he doesn't have any statistics on it yet but it's already beginning to bear some fruit in the reduction of accidents. i thought it would be an interesting program for him to share with other captains in their particular jurisdiction. i wondered, is there a mechanism where they come together to meet and share those ideas as to how they're going to approach these very innovative law enforcement

president mazzucco: commissioner turman? commissioner turman: thank you. chief, i've read the bulletin. in fact, you borrowed mine. but i just want to point out and be clear on this, that i think that obtaining a record of the actual consent is a very -- it's a good idea, it's a good practice. also, it is tempered, however, by practice considerations of circumstances, is it not because there may be circumstances we are not for one reason or another able to obtain the necessary writing or audio recording. i'm not saying we should excuse it in any way but we need to make sure that we understand that we're requiring this and that there might be circumstances in which this can't be practically accomplished. is that correct? >> yes, it is. but the district attorney wants us to understand that he is saying it's a requirement so we have to understand that if he decides not to proceed because we didn't comply with this bulletin that that's an expense we may incur, however we would still try to make the case as best we can at the time. commissioner turman: thank yo

commissioner turman. i didn't see your name pop up. commissioner turman: if we held the election in september it would be from september to may? >> that's the problem we'll have. we have rules saying it's in may and it got lop sided this year and i would have prefered to stay on the may schedule even if we just had the same officers, at least we had the election in may and we were on schedule. maybe we set it now, is it fair to the person elected in september to only have five months. >> i'm sorry for interrupting, i guess i didn't quite understand your last comment right there. would it be your preference just to keep the officers and wait until next may to do it or to do one before may but make it clear whoever is elected at whatever time would serve until may? >> i would make it clear. i'd like to be on the may to may schedule and follow our own rules. for whatever reason we didn't follow it and we didn't have a discussion in november whether we'd let it run a whole year from november to november. and we're not that far off from may

commissioner turman: present. >> mr. president, you have a quorum. president mazzucco: ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the wednesday, june 29, a commission meeting. we have had a bit of a hiatus with monthly meetings during the police chief selection process. what we normally do is give the commissioners an opportunity to introduce themselves and tell the audience what they do on their day jobs. we will do that. this is the best part of being on the commission, when we to get out to the community, i hear what they have to say about their district station, there district capt.. it is a good opportunity to give a feel for what is going on. without further ado, i will start with -- we will start with commissioner chan. commissioner chan: hi, there. thank you up for having us tonight. a special thank you for captain mahoney. my day job is in a staff attorney at the asian law caucus. i focus on helping juveniles in the system with navigating language barriers, also human- rights issues. i am happy to be here. >> dr. joe marshall, and i have been on the c

commissioner chan: i think it's going to be -- >> commissioner turman: i'd like to get a priority list done first. because, you know, the whole thing is to figure out what we're going to do and if we keep usurping, then it become as moot point. so i just -- you know, let's decide kind of what we're going to do before we schedule it. that would be my concern, trying to follow protocol. commissioner chan: i have a suggestion because i knew that would come up and makes sense to organize our priorities. and knowing the way c.i.t. worked and the way other things worked is that we should first get a presentation from the department, not a long one but a short one, where are we, how much staff do we have, what are the services, it can be a short presentation and after that we can discuss -- after our priorities we can discuss what we want to do knowing what the department status is. i think that's fine. we often ask about the status of various departments and procedures and that's not us taking action. it's just asking for a presentation as a part of the chief's report. commissioner turman: i

. >> commissioner julius turman? >> here. >> we have a quorum of commissioners and also joyce hicks of the office of citizens complaints and the chief of police. >> thank you, lieutenant falvey. welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the july 13, 2011 police commission hearing. ladies and gentlemen, tonight is what we call our discipline night so we have some closed matters, disciplinary hearings which by law have to be held in closed session so we have a very light agenda before that so we now move to line item number one which is general public comment. >> item number one, general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or department or o.c.c. personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police or o.c.c. personnel or commissioners are

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. >> commissioner turman? >> just a few questions. it's a marvelous curriculum. and looking at it -- i was reading it earlier today and i heard it expressed during your comments here but i don't particularly -- i don't necessarily see it here but is there time devoted to the actual identification and recognition of a situation where there is a mental health issue involved? it sort of -- this isn't criticism at all because again, great curriculum but it sort of reads as if this is the situation, this what we're going to do once there is a situation. but what what i'm concerned about is that both the individual, the subject as well as the officers are in a situation and we want to make sure that everyone has the tools to recognize this is a problem. which, you know, appears not necessarily threatening in anything situation and then suddenly it becomes a problem. that was my first question. >> yeah, definitely this is still a little bare bones. some of this stuff, especially the afternoon around the escalation, a little place holders for specific scenarios. so i can