martha graham and paul tailor, twila tharp, and mark morris himself. because they are choreographers, they know their physicality. they know what not to do, you know, and not to show, special how to use your body smartly. >> i had chita rivera here not too longing -- >> oh, chita. >> who's still dancing her age, as you put it. >> incredible. >> she knows how to dance her age. >> that's a timeless artist. it's incredible. >> yeah, yeah. where i was going with that initially, though, was how interesting it is -- >> i don't want to say weird, but interesting it is to sit in the audience, as did i the other night, and watch you play these characters, this character, who is so muted. that's when you know you're a good actor. >> well, that's the challenge. i was always fascinated by class cal theater, russian theater. i grew up, of course, in latvia first, and then in russia 10 years. and those 10 years in russia especially i had access to receive the best of the russian theater. i thought it's magic when the actor is saying something. it's such a revealing