bush from twun to 2005. he is now vice chair of the board of directors for wounded warriors project. very good of you to be here, sir. thank you so much. how bad is? >> thank you. if allegations are proven to be prove then what happened in the phoenix va medical center is unacceptable and possibly criminal. >> why do you say criminal? our viewers should know have you a legal background as well. >> if files were manipulated that caused deaths of veterans, that is morally reprehensible, and criminal. >> so viewers we're talking about one facility. phoenix va. the administrator is accused of, she and others manufacturing, hellman, yes. manufacturing a system they'd diminish the way it looked for wait times for the vets. the whistle blower saying they're waiting between six weeks and 20 weeks and only when you can get an appointment within two weeks do they put them on official books within two weeks when they have been langishing up to 5, 6 months waiting for one appointment to result whistle blowers and others