i mean backup with officer ty bagby and his father, scott bagby. man of unidentifiable age. this is where you keep your skills titght? >> pretty much. >> the threat isofficially stopped. >> a lot of times they say why didn't they wound them or shoot them in the leg. >> hollywood. unfortunately, we're not all bruce willis and denzel washington. if we go to shoot for the arm or leg, if he moves, it might go in the back and shoot baby susie, and we don't want that. >> you're police officers, but you're also black dudes, um ai' black dude. so i'm calling a black guy meeting right now. talk about the relationship between the black community and the police. there's a perception that black people have something extra to worry about. >> a lot of incidents don't have to happen based on what i know and see and hear. a lot of these don't have to occur if you do exactly what you're told to do. if you're told to take your hands out of your pockets, it's a safety issue, safety of the individual and the officer, even if you don't agree, follow it. there's an aven

i mean backup with officer ty bagby and his father, scott bagby, retired lieutenant. black man of unidentifiable age. this is the shooting range? this is where you keep your skills tight? >> pretty much. >> the threat is officially stopped. >> in the news a lot of times people ask why didn't the cops shoot them in the leg and wound them so the person could still be alive, so tell me why it's center mass. >> hollywood. unfortunately, we're not all bruce willis and denzel washington. if we go to shoot for the arm or leg, if he moves, it might go in the back and shoot baby susie, and we don't want that. >> you're police officers, but you're also black dudes. i'm a black dude, so that means i'm declaring a black guy meeting right now. talk about the relationship between the black community and the police department. because right now nationally it seems like they're in a crisis. there's a perception that black people have something extra to worry about. >> a lot of incidents don't have to happen based on what i know and see and hear. a lot of these incidents don't have to