>> yet, if those films, i mean, wee talking about tyler perry at this point. >> no, no i mean, look. king -- >> let's not give them fodder for tabloid. i'm not saying we're talking about tyle perry, but those are e shows we' talking about, if we're talking about that and weook at the numbe that come and see his movies and view the shows on tbs, my question i is that, in fact, maybe what black america wants to see? >> a lar part. >> i hear aot of nos and yet there are a lot of peoe wahing it. >> here's the thing, thou, because we've had this diussion back and forth because when john singleton. wh people came out to see "boys in the hood" and h d "rosewood" and nobody showed up. so a lot of this is on us. a lo of this isn us, you know. we -- you vote with your pocketbook, yo wallet. you vote with your time, sitting in front of e idiot box and e man has a huge audience and tyler is very smt. hetarted t, you know, with these plays and church busse would pull up packed ande's parlayed it intoa, y know -- boht his own jet. if you can buy a jet, you've got moy. imagery i troubling.r me, just

>> it seems a strange -- >> it's the tyler perry in me. >> tyler perry in you. >> my mom joined the reds around. then when i came back to the states, my mother had joined them. i thought, maybe there was something here. >> and the book's a little serious. it does have humor in it. but it seems a little different take for you, right? >> yeah. it's a little different take. but it's -- it's a character exploration. you know, the character starts off like homey the clown. then she ends up loving herself. it's about a woman who has to forgive herself in order to find love. >> i'll tell you what, she's got forgiveness for. right here. a little excerpt i'd like to read. it's good for you. james gently pulled her toward his waiting lips. their tongues danced slowly, both kept their eyes open gazing at the lust reflected in the mirrors to their souls. whoa. i mean, i smell a pulitzer or something. i've been to the red ladies -- the red hat society ladies' meetings. nothing like that ever goes on with those ladies that i know of. >> it's life after 50 is what it's really saying. you know, i think