know there is a feature you can see who is checking out your profile so i immediately noticed tyler schultz checked out my profile so i sent him an e-mail i did not hear back for over a month and was making headway with the story in other ways and then when i lost hope he would get back to me my phone brings one afternoon in the journal newsroom and it is tyler. also terrified and very nervous because he was worried that somehow they retrace communication and i had to grant him confidentiality for him to talk to me that once i did he gradually got comfortable he wanted to unburden himself and his story came pouring out. and that had the unbelievable twist to the story to that tyler and george axis. [laughter] so the last part of this is you finally decide to publish 2015. >> tyler had good reason to be paranoid as did alan because they figured out they were among my confidential sources and threatened them and there was a surreal incident that was recounted in the book that tyler was ambushed at his grandfather's house and had to withstand my legal threat they wanted him to sign documents b

was telling me, and that is how i came across other former theranos employees, one of whom was tyler schultz and george schultz's grandson, and he worked there eight months and had come to the conviction it was fraud and a scam, during his eight months, and at the tail end of his eight months trade to alert his grandfather and open his eyes to what was going on, and george hadn't believed him, and so he had to leave theranos and keep all of this bottled up for a year, and then when i started poking around and calling a lot of his ex-colleagues he heard that this journal reporter was poking around and so he looked me up on linkedin and at that point allen beam had told me about tyler and said he might be someone you can trust. i thought the connection with the grandfather was interesting. and as you know lynched n -- linkedin has a feature that enable yourself to check out your propile and i noticed when tyler schultz check out my profile so i sent him an e-mail through linked n and didn't hear back from him for a mock and was making headway with the story in other ways, and then when i had s

tyler schultz graduated from stanford in 2013 and a couple months later went to work for her full-time and ended up spending eight months at the company. and over the course of that stint become convinced that the company was behaving unethically, that it was cutting corners and essentially the whole thing was a scam. he went to his grandfather and was on the board and tried to convince his grandfather that it was all a fraud. and his grandfather wouldn't believe him and sided with elizabeth holmes. so he had to keep all that bottled up after he left the company for about a year until i came along and i reached out to him and we made contact and he became a corroborating source for my investigation in the wall street journal. >> it is absolutely stunning to think that something to big. hundreds of millions of dollars of investment and, you know, there is magazines that talk about her success. you quoted somebody as saying the whole project looked like an eighth grade science project. let me ask you the bottom line. did people's lives get put in danger? were there tests that could have