tyrone walker when he was my mentor, he still is a mentor to me. he helped me. let's go out to eat.o to eat. people don't know. >> it gives you've a sense of -- of worth and value for some one few of invite you out to something that was beyond your experience. wasn't the food? wasn't the restaurant. it was somebody's inviting me, somebody is taking time with me. it's -- it's that kind of -- of, of, affirming that you are of value that you are not something that scud be even, cast away. >> heap just kept telling me. there is something better for you. he helped me -- set a plan. >> how did he do that. >> first off. he found out what i wanted to do. he found out. >> he didn't tell you. he found your packing. >> i am a firm believer of that. you need passion to live, elevate. passion comes from within. >> everybody wants to blame everybody else. we all have a responsibility. >> right. >> we may not all be totally at fault. we are all are responsible. >> we need to refocus on rebuilding the infrastructure, right? i'm not just talking road. i am talking family infrastructure, churches, co