and we are back with tyson slocum director of public citizen's energy program tyson let me ask you about this oil rigging scandal that seems to be emerging here it's kind of reminiscent reminiscent of something that happened ten years ago what's this all about yes the last month the e.u. announced that they were investigating three major oil companies shell b.p. and stadol oil for price fixing key european oil benchmarks that end up affecting oil prices and chemical prices and hundreds of other products on u.s. markets as well of course and what they say is that these oil companies who voluntarily report their trades to a for profit news publication called mcgraw hill and they have an energy division called plaid shirt so they were conspiring with each other to mislead plats to set prices that were financially beneficial for the oil companies but financially disastrous for consumers now as you said this sounds a lot like what happened a decade ago in the united states right around the time of the enron scandal in california federal regulators in the u.s. discovered that natural gas compa

too common our neighbors to the north joining me now for more on that is tyson slocum director of public citizens energy program tyson welcome to the program always good to be here to great to have you with us first of all are those stats and numbers right i mean this and the this giant oil spill this this all happened right oh absolutely and the major oil producing and oil transporting region you're going to have spills there was just a report in the houston chronicle this more. being that the houston area experiences on average two spills a day sometimes those skills are small sometimes they're larger the fact is there is no such thing as benign energy production for transportation as long as we continue to expand our oil infrastructure network we're going to increase the chances of major spills in more and more american and canadian communities and the stuff that's coming down from canada from alberta the they could have taken it out to the pacific or to the pacific rather granik via british columbia but the good citizens of british columbia said no way you can't run your pipeline through our province you've got a