tzipi livni, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. hello sarah.u think the only way to achieve peace is two states for two peoples? the conflict is a national conflict between two national movements, one is zionism, which acted for many years in order to establish a state for the jewish people, and the other is the national palestinian movement. and as far as my understanding goes, and according to negotiations that we had before, the idea is to end the conflict and to end all claims between these two movements, and between the state of israel and the palestinians, is to have different states for two different peoples, and which each people implement their own right of self—determination. and in israel, israel is a jewish democratic state, and the meaning is that israel is the nationstate of the jewish people, with equal rights to all of its citizens, because it is a democracy, and because this is, or these are also ourjewish values. there is an argument that that has been tried for decades, or at least that has been the ambition for decades, unsu

tzipi livni, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, hello sarah.ay that the only way to achieve peaceis say that the only way to achieve peace is two state for two peoples? the conflict is a national conflict between two national movements, one is zionism, that acted for many yea rs is zionism, that acted for many years in order to establish a state for the jewish people, years in order to establish a state for thejewish people, and the other is the national palestinian movement. and as far as my understanding goes and according to negotiations that we had before, the idea is, to end the conflict. and to end all claims, between these two movements, between the state of israel and the palestinians, is by having different states for two different peoples, in which each people, i implemented their own right of self determination. and israel, is a jewish democratic state. that means that israel is the nation state of the jewish state. that means that israel is the nation state of thejewish people with equal rights towards the citizens because israel is

my guest is tzipi livni.he is the head of the zionist union movement in the israeli parliament and a former foreign minister. she said that the only way to achieve foreign peace is to have two states foreign peace is to have two states for two people. but why is that? could one state where dues, muslims, and muslims live in peace? —— the jewish people, muslims, and christians live in peace? tzipi livni, welcome to hardtalk thank you sarah. why do you think the only solution is to stay for two people? the conflict is a national conflict between two national movements, one desires, which acted for many years in order to establish a state for the jewish people, for many years in order to establish a state for thejewish people, and the other is the national palestinian movement. and as far as my understanding goes, and according to negotiations that we had before, the idea is to end the conflict and to end all claims between these two movements, the state of israel and the palestinians is to have different states

and coming up on hardtalk we hearfrom tzipi livni, the prominent israeli politician widely consideredrful woman in the country. good evening and welcome to bbc news. the conservative party has won a historic by—election victory in copeland. it's the first time a party in government has taken a seat in a by—election for 35 years, and it's a major political upset. theresa may said her party had secured an outstanding victory. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn described their defeat as very disappointing, but he said he wouldn't be standing down. labour has held copeland since 1935, but the conservatives overturned a labour majority of more than 2500. in a second by—election in stoke—on—trent central, labour saw off a concerted challenge from the ukip leader paul nuttall — with a reduced majority. in a moment, we'll have a full report from stoke, but first our deputy political editorjohn pienaar reports from copeland. sometimes party leaders seem to grow a little after a win. theresa may's victory appearance here today told you that she'd use the tories winning copeland to claim she could r