and in budapest we have george m, u l l e z, a podcast to read the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentlemen cross up rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i would appreciate it. ok, let's start out with glen glen. as i said in my introduction, um, are we at the end of diplomacy here? at the end of negotiations or at the beginning of something? because we are obviously at an impasse. we have the leaked reaction to russia's proposal through a spanish media, which probably was intentional. the russians are not happy with it, at least a, as a reaction, not official reaction to it at this point, but they made it very clear that they're not pleased where we are. where are we here? and has nato really played its hand? go ahead. well, hello, this letter was to returned from the nato and not a states the proposal. so russia has been leaked to see the difference as their predictable wish was. that nato would deliver a letter which would be very complete ideological regress. say that these are values, principles, ideals, all this is taking their unc