concerns express the british count about list trust, fellow beth is as they met in moscow, discuss rising tensions over your frame and the u. k. threat to impose the toughest sanctions against moscow or he's total court has the story. those julian, tim still, i am disappointed that we seem to have dialogues between a mute and a deaf person. they seem to be listening, but don't hes, almost detailed explanations have fallen on rough ground. they say that russia is waiting for the soil to freeze and become like a stone so that tanks can pass safely into ukrainian territory. it seems that our british colleagues have the same sol today, from which numerous factors that we cited have bounced few people if any would call thursday's meeting, a productive one at the top of the agenda. of course, we're the proposals for security guarantees that moscow had put forward back in mid december. the main point of contention being that russia's asking nato not to move any farther eastward, specifically into the countries of georgia and specifically here ukraine. this is something that washington and nato have refused to do and at the press con