u. k. georgie, and how for the whole is um advocating for with a bowers and i will be working alongside georgina. and hopefully we will look more into the resorting side of things. excellent. i'm interested to know as well if you get any push back when you work against bullying, i know that you're involved in things like legislation, for example, and workplace training. and even in providing support for people who have been bullied, are there nay sayers out there? are there people who are standing in your way or who don't appreciate the severity of bullying? john, i'm a very normal person. i'm not in a professional or an academic, i'll be very honest with you. i'm not going to lie to anybody here tonight. so there's a lot of pushback. i have engaged with governments. the government actually for meeting the, you know, they're very professional, but really they don't see the severity and it's not that they don't see the severity gone is they know that if they introduce anti bullying laws, there's going to be pushback from employer representative from the end result versus out and look aft