u. k is robert guy, spin folders, electra and international peace and security at durham university. i'm the author of the book, understanding territorial withdrawal is really occupations and exits and tell a v akiva elder as a political analyst and veteran journalist. and there's a box morocco summit that was the is a syria research or, and policy analyst. and the non resident fellow f. b to heavy instances for a middle east policy. thanks for your time with us on inside story. robert guys penfold by renouncing by israel renouncing the 1974 disagreement plan that important international agreement between israel and syria. what does this tell you about israel's plans and syria? well, these ready perspective is we made this agreement with the country or regime no longer exists the sod received brands and it wasn't made was that the shower of the side, it was made with a soft spot. the heads of the sides. and now we're seeing israel basically trying to maximize, and it's at so called security, but also projected interest inside syria. so we have seen israel take the buffer, so that is a

let's pull these different scripts together with robert guy's been filters. electra in peace and security at dorm university in the u. k. rep, which is great to have you with us again. um, so let's talk about that 1st. i'd be very anxious to be afl on the wall with that goes towards between until you blink and his tech is kinds of part because a side support different sites. oh, very much. so it'd be really interesting to see how that was negotiations in turkey . how they kind of in relation to the single tiniest negotiations that are going on in damascus at to kish officials also that talking to hate. yes. and trying to, trying to talk with them because he's just all based at a more or less mediating between the s n a the the and the national. all me, the to just about rep will group on the staff to siri and democratic forces. the us back curtis reval group. there's been, we're close what we're hearing to a ceasefire. but if you look at both groups demands, you can see this is very much a product of the broader allegiances, so supposedly haste. yes, it demands the ass, the f i s d s sorry at the the, the expelled the p. k. k. fight

call home the let's go back to robert guys. penfold is a lecture and peace and security a dime university joins us from down in the u. k. so this thing the us probably was pointing out. this is the president who was vowing to stay the course in syria saying our approach is shifted the balance of how the mission to gain sizes will continue. how much of those that is going to be carried on into the trump presidency might be on the minds of many people as well i that's the big question. i have one's mind buy, also questionnaire as if it won't buy it and said, you know, buying was basically taking credit for what happened in syria. i think 1st of all, it's important to note that no external power could really take credit for what happened and see where this is the thing that the syrian people did themselves. and 2nd of all, i think it's a bit rich coming from by and goes to say what you've been saying, because we know the vitamins but it little get heads with israel over x policies over to expansion of the war at 11. and for example, they've been trying to constrain israel's baby, they failed miserably. so this idea the bi