u. k. lloyd austin, you know, they're all in here. i mean, this is good and very, very badly because there will be a winner, and there will be a loser. and my hunch is, given that it's a neighboring country to russia, with russia, with overwhelming military force, is going to be a disaster for nato. and it is a disaster for nato. go ahead, earl peter, you can actually go back even further before 2014. you can look at woodstock and you can look at the grant, just bored by as a new to brzezinski and rand study in 2019 ukraine is a strategic importance in order to to didn't really have a strategic importance to us for existence. but as far as weakening to russia is, and so that's why it's focused here, and that's what the, this is all about to weaken and contain russia and to prevent them from researching and to, to coming back up. what's going to happen if obviously the militarily, it's not going to, unless there's an intervention and then who knows what happens ukraine's going to lose the and so what, what could happen is we could see