u. k. parliament committee claims downing street botched, its response to the coven pandemic leading to thousands of debts that could have been avoided. now we're going to go live to alice tustin, founder of the covey, the victim campaign group names, not numbers now. ah alice, were you surprised by that report or was it just something that the british public had already suspected? well, i mean, i've been assigned to the last couple of years in my group manual numbers that the government has done an absolutely terrible job. and this is what happens when you have leaders in charge in a nurse, a society that don't know what they're doing and they didn't follow the science. they didn't listen to the experts and they didn't listen to other countries that warned them when italy said that this was coming on, them laughed. and if you look on other islands behaved by japan and so critical to south korea and they did a much better job outcome disgrace, they didn't listen. and also they didn't think about the lives they full about the money they for about the business contracts. and they didn't c