u. k. patrick battery defense and security expert at the university of bos. thank you. all of you for coming to speak to us. so these comments that we're discussing come from, not a particularly senior member of the as rated cabinets of the minister of heritage. but um it, they are pretty shocking on like i wish i could say yes they are. i mean, understanding the b a. is there a mentality and this of the nature of this routine, a committed genocide or not is a bit into using nuclear power. wouldn't be very shocking. it's worth mentioning that as their own has already dropped in cause or they were present of to her. she menu the or bombs and continued to, to bomb cause up. but you're absolutely right it's, it's a very interesting the end because these are out for decades has been adopting a policy of strategic. i'm be given to you when it comes to. it's a new, clear, a power and it never confirms organize that it has a this power but an announcement from a member of the government a should raise a lot that israel indeed has this power and wanted to do to, to use it. so i

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