u. k. scott and lucas, professor at the clinton institute university college dublin, and also in washington dc. bruce find a former us associate deputy attorney general and a constitutional lawyer. gentleman, welcome to inside story. thank you very much for joining us, bruce fine in washington. let me start with you for my present. trump has always said that the documents he took with him from the white house where declassified. but this published audio recording appears to contradict this, how damming is, is, and is this a nail in the case against drunk. so i think it's an exaggeration to point to just one piece of evidence is conclusive, the burden is on prostate or prove beyond a reasonable doubt. and this certainly under cuts, the president's form or claim maybe it's still maintains that, that he could just think about the classifying the document in his head. and it became the classified by magic here, at least the tape, if it's authentic, suggest that he knew that you would need to do certa

u. k. the former scott, this the, the nicholas that has been released, but i charge off to being arrested as positive pro into the funding and finances of the sculptors national party. and the statement on switzer, the former 1st minister said being detained was both sharp and deeply distressing. while assisting, she's innocent of any wrong doing to ukraine's military has liberated 3 frontline villages from russian forces in the southeast of the country. troops released this video claiming to show the ukrainian flag being rains in black hood and the lodge the russian occupied region of don't. yet, despite keeps claims of making the slight keeps claim of making us more. at vons rushed, as military continues to insist that it has successfully repelled ukrainian, that attacks in the area as the fighting goes on. so does the rescue effort in the wake of the cold cut down bridge? it's increasingly it's an increasingly dangerous operation. you create a national police release the following images of what they say is the often loss of a russian attack. 3 people were killed and 10 others wounded as

scott. this neo nazi later from the u. k. has been implicated and terrorist attacks on the russian border regions according to a major investigation. finding show that mine used to teach and extreme right wing camp in wales in 2014 a facility that trained as members and how to fight immigrants. several european security services we're formerly allowed to do his activities in 2019. he was actually banned from entering germany. despite that he now leads what must go categorizes as a tiro group, and ukraine, which does possess nato weapons. but western media outlets, though, have been heralding him and his group exclusively as a russian and he put in militia, also called freedom legion. however, the reports failed to mention the origins of the background of the group in his association with the ukrainian military. as members of the group have attacked russia's bel daughter, a generation weeks kidding, at least 5 civilians and wounding many others. and we spoke to jody bra from england, believing that groups are actually supporte

he joins us now by scott from, by me. i'm in the u. k. scope, i want to start with these charges, the federal charges and the unprecedented for a former president from international audience. just how significant all they, especially given that he can still run for president least charges are significant because they have trump was convicted of trump was convicted on the 7 accounts. a pleasure correspond that noted violation of the espionage act with the most handling of classified documents, false statement, and obstructing justice, up to 100 years in prison. now i don't think donald trump, we send this stuff to 100 years in prison even if convicted. but now when you're talking about these charges, they are far more serious. even then the indictments that we have from new york state. this spring over his pay off to the point star strongly daniel's before the 2016 election. that said, i think she could face even more serious charges coming up this summer, both in georgia state case over election that our parents and, and the justice depa