do you think the u. k has met bad threshold of high vaccination rates? because that is what bars thompson is counting on. well, last they looked, i think the u. k. is gotten to about 50 percent coverage with and thinking about fully covered with 2 doses of vaccine or one dose of a single those back seen. i think that clearly we're seeing a search in cases in the u. k. and that suggest to me it's not enough. and while we haven't yet seen surges and death rates there, we're beginning to see increases in the death rates while they're still very low. they've probably increased 2 or 3 fold over the last few weeks and to me that's something to watch. and i know they've said a deadline of july 19th to to fully reopen a lot can happen in 2 weeks. a lot of people could be vaccinated between now and then i would really like to see rather than set an arbitrary date. you know, forrest johnson to say, if we can achieve, say 70 percent coverage between now and then. then we can begin to think about opening up. do you think, mr. jones? not the point though, when he says

and health passes now mandatory for values holding more than 50 people across the channel in the u k, think is a falling, but they do remain hide around 30000 cases a day. they're not fears. the numbers could rise again as england is removed, most restrictions and some fails that freedom isn't being respected. looking at that next is more, i guess the it would be impossible to sum up what these protests were a back in britain then france, easily. grief is strangely, people from all walks of life through quotient, to the wind in a bid to be heard, to cry out. and the one thing that they all wanted is to say, where todd, todd and angry the ah, one 1st thought may be that the season very smart staging a mass protest in the middle of a pandemic was while the delta vary and so much more contagious is making the rounds and that is what her st need is for example, latched onto cooling protesters morons in relation to yesterday's pro. chase cannot i how absolutely disgusted i was, it broke my harsh millions and millions of people across our guided doing the right thing. and it just broke my heart,

u. k. think tag autonomy and i flames association for sustainable democracy. the test for a shorter work week run by the reykjavik city council and the national government taking place between 20152019. the trials include more than $2500.00 workers or roughly one percent of the nation's workforce and involve workplaces like offices, social service providers, and hospital hours were generally pare down from 40 hours per week to 35 or 36 hours per week for the for day schedule while receiving the same pay. there's a lot to dig into this one as well. the studies finding with professor richard wolf is the host of economic update and author of the sick. this is the system when capitalism fails to save us from pandemic or itself, professor wolf, always a pleasure. what do you make of this is the 40 hour, 5 day work week and outdated practice at this point. knowledge been something that working people well, i'd say you and me at the dream for a long time, being able to get more or less the same pay for doing your hours of work. what's not like about that profit. let'

u. k. because the pen image has been so badly managed, it's almost a list of what not to do. and so i think that has something we feel when many a lot of countries, governments doing the best. but i get that powerful sense of frustration, anger from my colleagues in the u. k. because of how barely managed dependent response being the 1st michael baker from wellington. you see you and thank you once again for joining me, alex ivan, show q coming up after the break. alex continues is a few of the consequences of freedom be with dr. pod pinkerton. yeah. jonathan. mm. the one the panoramic. no. certainly no borders to nationalities has emerged. we don't have authority, we go to the back seen the whole world, leads to take action and be ready. people judge, you know, crisis we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in our own way, but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are together in it's like you're walking down a street

u. k. i think it's called a predict study and they've looked at different generations of distance between 1st dose and 2nd dose. but i think they're shown showing this a 6 to a week delay between 1st and 2nd. dose is probably optimal and is worthwhile keeping that delay right? about 6 to 8 weeks when prevalence is relatively middle of the road, not particularly high. and, and that's because you're, you do get a slightly better pick up with that delay a. and it does allow you to vaccinate more people. so this is the balance between pushing for early full immunity and spreading the 2 doses to get more people actually it has been given amount of time and a longer lasting effect. so a little bit, the delay seems to be a good thing even for the fines or even for the pfizer and other r n, a based vaccines. and just just quickly, before i get onto immune escape, is there any truth to the delta variant? help to kill off the variance. the beats are varied. he for 84 k that seem to bypass the answers and occ

think? certainly in the u. k, where we are experiencing significant rises in cases and i'm not so sure about the data from europe, but i will imagine that it will be lagging slightly behind. of course we have higher vaccination coverage than most of europe. so delta, the much bigger risk countries that have low vaccination, right. and so yes, i'll be very concerned about this virus moving through populations around vaccinated because it is extremely infectious. the attack rate is high. we've shown in health care work because in india that the bars is able to transmit between health care workers who have vaccinated and therefore in hospitals is a particular risk, i believe. and of course in the u. k. with all these sporting events, starting up and opening up and be restrictions, there is going to be a further search and we all can get huge numbers of cases. there's absolutely no doubt that they will, in a large part, the mild but some, again, been the large numbers. you know, we will get, you know, they will have

i can think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k. i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why she is safety? because the way the law politicians talk about is like next slide, the streets with as many police officers. and that's like safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our community who risk of having a not violence committed against the police, are not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims of vice. then looking at them in a very, that kind of lens of suspicion of all you about to commit the crime, shows that the way that the police are interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them. is often from a prospective kind of suspicious and i think blinked by something that's really important to say is talking about we want to move away from a punitive system doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just want to make that clear, cuz it's really important to actually know that the syste

u. k. want a deal. we think a deal and i believe that we can get what we can do in the shop and us, i think it is the phrase prime ministers have come and gone and medical has worked hard to smooth relations with the u. k. the politics aside, there is one british leader, anglo miracle has always got on with perfectly well. let's take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world. donald trump's company and it's long time chief financial officer have pleaded not guilty to tax fraud charges. prosecutors accused alan vice holberg, of personally avoiding tax on $1700000.00 of income. the firm is alleged to have run a quote, sweeping and or daisha scheme to keep executive pay and bonuses off the books. us attorney general merrick garland has halted all federal executions while the justice department continues its review of the death penalty. it comes off to the historic use of executions at the federal level by the trump administration. 13 people were put to death in trumps. last 6 months. in o

u. k, angular on behalf of the u. k. i want to thank you for your truly historic commitment. not just to the u. k. a germany relationship, but to global diplomacy. more generally. and i think over the last, yeah, 18 months in particular, your scientific expertise has been instrumental in guiding the global response to the pandemic. and as i the saying, i think a commitment to science and research is something our countries share and want to develop together. it's no coincidence that 2 of the world's most successful creative iris vaccines by the beyond tech and oxford astrazeneca came out of german and british labs. and i'm very proud that today we are establishing a new herschel metal for german and british women in astrophysics, in your, on a, just one angular of the lasting legacies ability to ship. it's a great privilege to welcome you here today. i'm going to over to you. yes. thank you. prime minister. dear boris. thank you. thank you for the very warm wides of welcome for this very gracious hospitality. this is my 1st of bi lateral visit abroad after the end of the pandemic. and after this, and it's something that is now that britain has left the european union a goo

and come back to their own country and say, i think the u. k is, is very low, a lot of return. but i think the children are a different matter and i just thought them becoming by the problems in the future. maybe they should be returned to their own countries. chris, may i just follow up with you about one aspect of what you're talking about when you're talking about children, potentially being separated from their parents? do we yet know what the legal procedure is for that? how do governments go about trying to repatriate children if say the parents don't agree with that decision or don't want to be separated from them? do you happen to know what goes into that and what the challenges are? well, no, i don't. and i would suggest it probably won't happen unless the parents agree to it. but, but we've already heard that the idea in belgium is to bring the women back. they go to prison, potentially with that that they will go to prison and the children taken into care and then you know, 2 years, worst case scenario, the parents are returned and they can go back to their parents. s

u. k. i want to thank you for your truly historic commitment, not just to the u. k. germany relationship, but to global diplomacy. more generally. and i think over the last year, 18 months in particular, your scientific expertise has been instrumental in guiding the global response to the pandemic. and as i was saying, i think a commitment to science and research is something our countries share and want to develop together. it's no less get more on their should dw, the u. k. a correspondence get mass at windsor castle, just outside london, and from political correspondent, hands. brant. welcome both. let's start with the review budget mass. what did we got learned about the state of post bracket relations? i looks like we've, we've lost the signal to it's a burg muscle trying to recover that. and let me put that same question to you, hans broadband. what do we learn about that? the state relations between these 2 countries? well obviously because of the brick set because britain left the european union, the 2 countries not have to put their relationship on a bilateral basis that can no longer do it via the europe, ian union as it were. and

and i can think that frustration and actual anger from colleagues in the u. k. because the pen image has been so badly managed, it's almost a list of what not to do. and so i think that has, certainly we got a feel when many, a lot of countries with governments doing the best. but i get that powerful sense of frustration, anger from my colleagues in the u. k. because of how we manage dependent response to being the 1st to michael baker from wellington, you see you and thank you once again for joining me. malik salmon show you coming up on to the break, alex continues. there are a few of the consequences of freedom be with dr. pod at pinkerton. yeah, jonathan. mm. oh, it's like you're walking down a street in a town and in the store, windows are negative. in depression, you tend to go into the store and buy those thoughts and take them home as if they're years. in mindfulness, you walk down the street, you still see the sort storefront with the negative thoughts, but you don't go in and buy those ah, the eastern half of the united states were going to have 1000000

u. k. washington still thinking his expedition to the us where if found guilty, it could be jo from 275 years. meantime, the main witness in the u. s. case against him is admitted to giving false testimony. speaking to an atlantic newspaper, he said the wiki leagues found never asked him to hug any computers or phones. it's potentially a major blow them for washington. with some saying, the admission is fatal even to america's case against the sons among them fellow with the blow. it was snowden. this is the end of the case against julian assad. if biden continues to seek the extradition of a publisher under an indictment poison top to bottom, with false testimony admitted by its own star, witness the damage to the united states, reputation and press freedom would last for a generation. it's unavoidable for the better part of a decade. the united states and its allies wanted sonjee. they came up with allegations and grand juries and smear campaigns to get to him. we knew that what we didn't know is how many of america's charges against the sods charges that could lambda signs in jail for a 17

and you k paul, we think that would absolutely bring operational gains to the u. k. today, it would bring financial gains for the k, and it would absolutely create an enhanced the reputation of the united kingdom overseas today. we could do that today within the given parliament to do that today . graham, really interesting to get your thoughts on this. always. well, we had just wrapped up the interview. we've lost lost connection. we've created that greenhouse, my guest from royal air force pilot. he served in afghanistan is also the founder of justice for troops. now, in less than a week's time, the u. s. military operation will come to an end enough canister, whichever way the future plays are they will effect lives both inside and outside the country. according to recent estimates, the exodus of african refugees will bodies on the rise considerably. the number is thought to be closing it on 3000000, putting an incredible strain on countries forced to cope with those newcomers. germany, france, romania, top. the list of countries taking in the most africa, migrant

u. k. called cinema was now there are 42 in the u. k. so drive in everything that never existed in the u. k at all. so i think the economy has adopted very well. i don't think it will be a hard hit with a 2nd shut down. because there is far more adaptation and the economy has adjusted also, you're going to see that the borrowing know from the government, which is the highest it's ever been since $946.00 is going to increase. that is the long term worry. how will this government borrowing affect the long term economic prospects for the u. k. in any other country that has shut down and the u. k. won't be alone there because as we talked about last week on the show, the global debt in general is up because of all of these stimulus. now we've talked at length about how the breakfast brack. that saga is far from over writers. is that reporting that the u. k is expected to call for changes to the northern ireland protocol, which was a major sticking point in negotiations as they finalize the divorce. what is the issue at hand here, and does it put further tension on that content? his relationship that we've seen be

so i think the u. k, it's got the worst of both worlds. it has a lot of cases, a lot of death and a lot of damage to the economy. the u. k. is a major travel, but how could this affect the rest of the wall? especially if more vaccine resistance, more infectious variance emerge in the summer. while that is a big danger in the summer, if you have a lot of virus replication, lot of new infections during the summer, you're going to get more mutation taking place that has to happen. and if you get that happening in a country like the u. k, for about half of the population is vaccinated. you're actually giving an evolutionary advantage to variance that actually it can bypass the immunity generated by vaccination. so there is a real worry that we may get more mutations and we get to make it more dangerous mutations because we're just going to have so many cases that could be a really terrible outcome of the this complete removal of all of our protections. gabriel scouting, thank you for joining us. pleasure. thank you. well, i'll for you as presi

i can't say with any certainty, i think the, the u. k. will expect the anyone who's granted the visa to make their way to the u . k. i don't see any plans for evacuation so that the u. s. are actually physically evacuating people. they've given visas to then that doing more than, than they do more than other countries. i think, i think the, the, the british application process shouldn't be betty lend say for those who have work directly for the british government, because we know who they are. the embassy will know who they are and it shouldn't be too, too, too cumbersome process. we're talking a maximum of i think about 3000 people here that shouldn't take too long. so i don't think there would be any, any prospect of taking them to 3rd countries. i would hope that the african government and the, the african forces. they're not gonna collapse within a few weeks. i don't expect that to happen. i don't expect us fears to happen, but it does need. they do need to get on with it. i don't think the end a july, you know, a few weeks is the dea

wear masks to protect ourselves and protect others, and to remove its restriction, i think is a mistake. so why is the u. k. government following this path than them. is there any scientific basis for this thinking say hey, let's even get rid of face mask while cases going up. i can't see of any reason, especially as we've got to admit and accept that this is aerosol spread. and as it is aerosol spread, we've got to have better ventilation, better protection off that wire is coming and hitting us in the infecting us and we where it to protect others as well. so it doesn't make sense. and the other element that doesn't make sense also covered in your report just now was immunization of the younger age group. because we all know the infections. start in that younger school colleges, age group and then go on to be older age groups. and then the older people who are not immune of partially immune and hospitals. so we're entering tricky territory. time will tell how this plans out how effective our vaccines administers, administered in the u. k. proving against the new variance. so at the moment, the hospital a

so in a sense that saying, we think it is okay to have 510000000 children and young people across the u. k. infected by the next 6 months. but what's going to happen with these weight can be very hard to avoid being exposed to the bar given at the moment you're doing a 1000000 tests today and 5 to send them down to be positive. that means the county, the wash with delta dental of this virus. so it is, i think almost everyone's going to expose and he said, sealed themselves off somehow from contact with other people. so unfortunately, some of the people who get sick will be fully destination because it's just the expose and know that the thing is i haven't seen that. so there will be people getting sick and dying as a result of this. the other concern i should say, and this is the one of the reasons why scientists around the globe got concerned about this policy, is that this creates a huge opportunity for seeing escape variance variance that are somewhat quite resistant to that same will drive and make more copies for themselves, and that means with amazing evolution, the pressure or selec

it's not fair think it becomes pretty clear that there may be some kind of political agenda on the table. i'm not entirely sure how fond the u. k. government is of my calling and have policies, but maybe it's retaliation for something i couldn't really tell you. i think it definitely has that political ties and i do think that it's, it's pretty ridiculous. they shouldn't single out certain countries over other countries. so why was fraud singles out earlier this u. k. government announced you travel car due to the u within, unexpectedly placed additional restrictions on those coming via from the u. k. says it was concerned about the prevalence holes, the b to very in, to now this i'm the plus category, mid tens of thousands of holiday makers had to cancel plans pretty much last minute and that many scratching their heads with 6. it's easy for most of the policy is excessive, and frankly it is in comprehensible from a health point of view. we were at times in a difficult health situation in france. we understood that, but no other european countries obliged to quarantine by the u. k. and less than 5 percent of cases in france ar

u. k. want a deal. we think a deal. and i believe that we can get what we can do in the shop. and us, i think that is the phrase prime ministers have come and gone and medical has worked hard to smooth relations with the u. k. the politics aside, there's one british leader, anglo merkel, has always gotten on with perfectly well 70 report and then we have a team coverage off this visit here. d, w. big mosse is standing by and landed for us. no physical correspond. husband is here with me in the studio. let's go to london 1st big. this will be macros last visit to the german chancellor. as the red carpet been rolled out for well, yes, in the way it has because he is seen as the most successful. one of the most successful, successful politicians in the west and was johnson let it be known that he wants to pick her brain. so clearly, you know, a sense of admiration there. and, you know, trying to show my, getting his way because the u. k. having left the european union doesn't have a seat anymore at the table in brussels, so it's relying more and more on bilateral relationships. a

u. k is also be, think of their soldiers there. who else is involved right now that the now that the united states is getting out, does this make room for other countries to come in and try their hand where you're going to see the nato countries moving out year? it's pakistan certainly has a vested interest. historically, india has to iran, china and russia. so these countries are really got to deal with afghanistan insecurity. and because it's in their own backyard, it's going to be in their interest to deal with this thing. and in the united states to take a lesson from its experiences in afghanistan, but these kinds of interventions and other people's wars just isn't working in our best interests. we have won a war since world war 2 when you think about it. and it's, and our reputation is one of military intervention and destruction rather than construction, which the chinese have demonstrated now with their bell and go to initiative. they may want to, the chinese may want to get afghanistan economically involved through its spe

i think the u. k. it's not just my opinion, the data shows that the u. k is coming out of this really well and breaks it with a deal. well don, hillary ford, which i'm sorry to train you just a little bit there, but thank you so much for your excellent invalid. i will touch it with you. right. 5 and finally, richard branson became the 1st billionaire to travel the outer space on sunday and a highly anticipated trip with the crew from his company, virgin galactic unity, 20 to reach an altitude of more than 50 miles above the earth's surface, where the crew experienced 4 minutes of weightlessness before they made their return. shipping down the beautiful stay for everybody or anything such suitable beautiful lots all together. now it is no secret, but brands and b jeff bay those 2 space. but it appears that bases and his blue origin team were calling branson out on twitter by saying that outer space and doesn't really begin until it leaves 62 miles above the earth's surface leaping rather. oh my number. what i want to say that this launch was fascinating.