u. n. l v becoming a chef, he's got great jobs. but he has that every man touch where you can see when a guy showing him his corned beef hash outside of baltimore in a diner drive and a dive. and he's proud of it and everybody in the neighborhood eats it and he brings it out. the ferry, and he gives proper is it, is there a little bump and he moves on. i always think your brother that that means so much them and you know what it does, the business star. now their business is never the same. again. it's not, they can't even keep up as a guy leave that you know. like next for you know, the story. nobody at the national council can keep up with their changes. everything for you. yeah, we're talking to darnell super chef ferguson and he's got a new show over there and discovery plus called tiny food fight. but i want to talk to him about his bonafide his chops. where do you, who do you learn to cook off of sometimes it's an older member in the family or was your mom, your grandma or where did you get your chops? man? is a guess i didn'