n g o we on weapons of war. she joins us from paris. welcome to dw. so we've, we've had the criticisms of many is riley's of the u. n. and rights group. so apparently planning down the sexual violence committed on the 7th of october. i do think that criticism is justified a well, i think it's illegal to be complicated, but what is a reality? because you know, i wasn't nice round the i came back yesterday and you can feel that they are very angry about, very shocked about that because they feel that they were not heard. and the reality tv is that it took a long time. and i think the reason why uh, the reason for that is, you know, the so costly that arise and then, and the debate and everything. and it's not normal because if you take all the cases like to crane or all their enough for gas, i mean reaction more quicker. so yes, there is a legit stupid question to ask why they were no reaction, no more stronger reaction back under this like this. i might not be because, but well 1st of all of course the, the, the attack took everyone a by surprise. and then of course there was that the shut down of the area. i know a journalist have been alive to get in, so the world only gets to know about it when israel release the images. yeah, actually yeah, that's what i wanted to hide. so thank you for that. i think the, the thing is, let's not forget that they have themselves a little bit, you know the silence because for many reasons there is a complex, there is the issue of hostages. there is everything, and the police itself is fairly and police open an investigation only 2 weeks ago. so i was what it shows is that every time sexual violence is always, you know, the last thing that we are looking into. and i think this is the bottom line of the problem globally. ok, well let's let, let's look at that sort of it expands if you because of course that was international condemnation of the crimes committed by how much on the 7th of october, do you believe it's important to specifically acknowledge the sexual violence? yeah i, i think it is, and i, i, you know, my n g o every, every moment there is dry crises or a conflict or a, you know, stream vitamin somewhere. first of all, we do know that every time something like that happens sexual violence. you know, come see, you know, very rapid we do, we know that by experience in many countries, the factories that for each route, it didn't happen before, like back. so that might be an issue. but of course it is important. we should know now by experience that when you have a mass crime or something like that, you need to look at sexual violence and you need to ask for investigation on that. and these was not done. and i think also, you know, serious society, even not the time east. right. and civil society was talking about that. and it's true. what was said before they, what do you do? we could, you know, everybody, so this woman, naked, you know, and, and the people power rating with them and speaking on her with her. sorry, anne speaking on her. i mean, all of these, we have seen it, we react to ve