u. s. has urged the u. n. to consider measures to hold the offensive in the d. r. c, but has given no specific plan. so again, here we have all talk, no action is this somehow this is talking back to the rwandan genocide during the 99 days when we saw western powers, also hesitant to intervene. you know, uh, you know, if you, if you look at the, uh, the past history of this complex uh, the color itself as this 1996 uh, an estimate of 6000000 people have died. uh, there's an estimate of 1700000 uh, internally displaced. and it is estimated that more than $20000.00 women have soft, uh, uh, rate uh, incidence. so if you, if you compare uh the problem is that, uh, if you compare that to the, the problem that the general site, well the, the, the victims of the dentist like, and i'm a, i don't want to, to minimize the effects of the drastic effects of the genocide, but if you compare that to the quote oh that, yeah. see the dfcs actually suffered much more than then. then run to the, the effect that these little interest in supporting and supporting a piece process. i would blame that on uh, on the fact that we have have a issues that test the, to the attention of the international community, for example, for you pray more of the conflict in, in, in palestine which might have distracted these uh, the support that was available from the dimensional community and, and this has affected the effect of the support for, for a peaceful resolution in the, in the used to use. the original and security has also jeopardize the libido transport quarter, which connects to the r c, zambia, and angle at the global markets. what future do you see for this quarter? if the d r c fails to restore peace on its terran territory anytime soon? i as well or the future where use really the jo present jeopardize because the effect that uh uh, is, is the basis of that according to, is really to principle it minerals from the se, through the end goal to, to western markets. so if, if, if that's the route is insecure, then it really affects the, the viability economic viability of the project itself. and it might distract or might cause some of the commitments that were made for investment in this, in this product to be withdrawn because the trade really trade and investments depends upon a peaceful uh, peaceful uh, environment. and so i said that is missing really visual. there is no way in which this project might be comically viable for receive the investment investment budget that it has been promised from the various, the interested parties that they receive, the president has said, the libido quarter could be a great opportunity to integrate the region and bring prosperity, what are your thoughts on that? i would agree with that because you know, d. s for the r c is really a very rich region. it has that of 71 percent of the world's cobalt production and 25 percent of the gold global colton. reserves come from the d, r c and uh, the, the, the monroe wells off of the r cds, uh, estimated to be, uh, worth $24.00 trillion dollars. now that's much minerals. well, really uh, did you consider that uh you consider the possibility of having the peaceful d, r c. big stretch, some of that much better. oh, really, what's a trickle trickle down to the, to the, to the original um, neighbors of the d i. c. i need to be a really uh large economic boost that will uh help. not only that, the se, economically, but these other uh, these other neighboring countries in the region. and the derossi's president is reported to have personally told the french foreign minister during a meeting and construction of that resources are being stolen from his country who might benefit from the instability in the d. r. c. i suppose one where no one singles are pointed to the very 1st 2 countries that are blamed for full benefits and from the contracting with the c. uh, uganda and run to uh and uh, i think there's some you and reports which uh, appear to uh, confirm that this is true, that the, both these 2 countries are benefiting from, from the conflict in the deceit is through smuggling of minerals through the countries. but i think uh uh, just pointing the finger at uganda and one that really misses the point because these 2 countries really supply the demand for these minerals in the global markets. so if you, if you, as well as long as that market exists, you will find some, some of the country. so does the supply chain try to supply that uh that, uh, uh, that the month. so i think the point is the, to the solution really shouldn't be to really go back to the, the go shooting table and the look at the whole, the entire program uh listing. and also deal with these other issues that we've been that might not because that's why the problem of the lack of peace and stability, you know the dsp because as i said, as long as they space instability and that they are seen. then all these other factors, so all these occupations really wouldn't, wouldn't do this because of the c itself would be benefiting from, from the, from the mineral resources. so through and organized and controlled instruction, simple fits mentors. the, the, or c is government has also ordered the seizure of all assets linked to the em $33.00 militant group, including the personal wealth of the political leader of congo river alliance, which is associated with m 23. how is this likely to affect the ongoing classes? i say that's totally is also a trying to pinpoint but an issue within the why the problem of the instability with the c. so uh, i'm not saying that the, that the effect of the fact that the, the, some individuals or some individuals in the rebels are benefiting from, from the legal of mineral revenue should not be a prosecute at all. we'll face a legal consequences. but the point is, i think, is that the entire issue of uh, even uh, looking at individuals within this instance, instability should also be part of the entire i'll put a whole piece process, but it has to do. it has to be a step which goes through the entire piece process and also deal with a problem. so with the individual problems that the think you mentioned with an individual individual to of color profiting from from the illegal minding activity. the conflict has also effect in south africa, which has peacekeeping forces in the d. r. c. rwanda's president though has said south africa is not in a position to broker. i renewed a piece for the region. what are your thoughts on that as well? the one that maybe has a point to this much really because of the way this uh, based visual entrees. if this, if, if uh, the principal party to the conflict like one that feels that south africa is not a, can not be useful in finding a solution to this problem. that's, that's the question that has to be taken. but i really have to re emphasize that even that itself is really just been pointing to a certain issue within the entire piece process, which has to be delta. it's a in, in a holistic man. and so uh but, but in the process, uh if, if it's the one that is the ac is claiming that so that's okay. and i'll see a neutral uh, going to this uh, in this conflict then i think it's important to find of a neutral parties to it's a piece process like a goal. uh, so can you come in uh and then mediate, to take a leading role in mediating the the piece process. mm hm. and the u. k. has threatened to stop funding for rolanda over allegations that keep all a has been involved in that the or c conflict. uh, would you like to share your thoughts on that as well? and i understand that the, the, the value of, of, uh, uh, a few k gives to, uh, to the one that is uh, approximately, uh, uh, $40000000000.00 for you. and i think the total uh, uh, amount the one to receive in a year is over a 1000000000 us dollars. i think uh, i think ive correct that so. so it's, it's uh, as a proportion really its not that much. and i don't think it can really affect one does a position in this process. i think a the if, if any serious effect has to, to come through this process. it's really, it's really has to be a process which is a coordinated on in, on an international scale. and so it is so that it can really become effective that glenda can consider to be serious and that can affect its uh its programs and projects from, from fairly right african legacy foundation member motor a