and then when the e u offers that deal to ukraine for exclusive economic relation with the u. poon offers a better deal. he forgives the debt, it cuts the oil prices, and he says, you can work with both sides with that's what's in ukraine's interest. ukraine should be a neutral country. ukraine should disavow any interest in joining nato, and they should have friendly relations with both sides than they can try to work on their democracy. they've got a lot of work to do which night will the heater? but do you think the people like victorian new and in jake's element are going to give up ukraine? i mean it's, you know, if you look at particularly victoria newland, this is the unfinished business for her that she was one of the architects of the illegal who that over to a democratically elected government in february of 2014. she doesn't strike me as a person is going to call it quits. go ahead peter. now victorian newland is, you know, she's one of those cna assessors who biden has surrounded himself with and sullivan the same. so i don't have hope for them. i do have a little more hope fo

instead, biden's promised severe consequences if poon invades he has shown no signs of being interested or willing to deescalate the attentions. the u. s. forces will reinforce nato, the eastern flag, working with host countries, as nato has not yet activated its response force to counter what it refers to as russian aggression. i think there's an argument aspect to what they're doing, which is to put something on the table that can be taken away. a chin if you will, in exchange for russian non aggression against ukraine, despite no, no russian threat and no signs of an eminent invasion of ukraine. the pentagon says the movement of troops could begin soon, and there could be the possibility of even more true movements in the future. kimberly held can al jazeera washington dorset jibari is following reaction from the russian capital. moscow. we've been hearing from the russian deputy foreign secretary who said that this is a destructive step. alexander goosgo has said that this is not really const conducive. and it just illustrates that the americans are trying to escalate the attention rather than trying to de escalate. we've also b