u. s. s u s supreme court extra interpretation 2nd, but in fact should not preclude no government and government say, you know, attempt to was that you like in that respects should stand up and defend much round world, particularly in question china, where there's not even the pretense of respect because nobody is about to speak. yeah, nobody can vote on native economics. china pretend system right? nothing more than the size. so it is a very simplistic view of human rights. so i don't believe that somebody has to be perfect in order to defend from rights for rather in everybody should scrutinize themselves, but then devote themselves to protecting the rights around the world. i frankly wish that us did that more. thank you. you know, rather than, for example, president biden's recent fist bump with the saudi crown prince. yeah. yeah. that, that was reported on a lot in the implications of that fis bump. what about climate change kept? what can that mean? what should it mean for the future of human rights? climate change is a big threat. obviously on it, many people are going to face displacement due to climate change are going to face impoverishment. and i think there is a real responsibility in both to curtail the dumping of harvey to the us making things worse. but also in particular or the wealthier countries that have done so much to contribute to climate change. they really have responsibility, try to mitigate its effects on countries or, you know, contributing relatively little to the problem, but whose people today are suffering and is, is, are talking about the future. there are some futurists who say that artificial intelligence, for example, could make a large percentage of the future human population somewhat redundant. when you hear things like that, does it worry you mean how does a i in our technological future is that going to present a threat to the protection and preservation of human rights? it is presented. i'm going to see an example general washington bird involved in china. stop what we call chilar loop. that is to say, in wrappings using ai, they're basically instructed. you don't find the target and show it without any shimon control. that's an extraordinarily dangerous phenomenon. we've had the vast majority of governments around the world agree with us that these kind of kill a robot should be banned, but certain government, including the united states, russia and china, are reluctant to agree. so that's just one illustration, but i think more broadly there is in each to, you know, be much more attentive to technology than we have been. if you take, for example, you know, that the social media platforms, you know, there's much talk about suppressing disinformation white. but i think what we really need to look at is the algorithms that end up promoting information that he's engaging. even when that information is often false or hateful information is very engaging, is profitable. the algorithms promote it, and that's why we have the call. so there is, i think a need to go beyond that. somewhat simplistic. do you think down or not? and begin to examine those. ok. before we run out of time, kid, i was trying to remember how many times we have spoken on the ear and it's countless times over the, the past decade. and you know, apple, it of yours that you've always made the point to make yourself available to us. in the media, have journalists in your experience the past 3 decades, have they done all that? they can to tell the truth about the plight of people and human rights violations. journalists are very much our ally thing. of course, everybody more. but you know, she read human rights. flash gets things done is by, you know, spotlight in government. he's, unfortunately, today's world, every government has to lose for 10, that recession lice as an 8th, an aspect of this region. and so he thought like a discrepancy between that now that you generalize, i'm sure was, are a central purpose in africa. they report on our findings, they do their own investigations. and so, you know, we do really look at journalists, i mean free media as an essential component of the defensive to kenneth wrought the head of human rights watch soon to be the former head of human rights watch. can we appreciate your time and your insight to wish you all the best in a well deserved retirement? 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