doesn't get out of here with u.i.? >> but have you heard -- they would have to have 60 votes in the senate to do this. they still need that for this kind of vote. and we still need the speaker to agree to put it there. you should ask these questions of the speaker. but these -- this is an intolerable situation to us, but we also want to end sequestration. you have two noes. two noes don't make a yes, so we'll get one yes and fight to get the second yes. > madam leader, how big of a bill is this for people to swallow? >> not having u.i. or the whole bill? >> the bill. >> what i also said if it's a stinkin' lousy budget even with u.i. in it we may not vote for it. so there was much improvement that had to take place in that bill for us to vote for it and that improvement did take place and members will vote for it. the most unease we have, of course, is that unemployment insurance isn't in it. so i said to them, just weigh the merits of what this bill is as a budget bill and we have no problem with s.g.r. going forward.

. >> what i also said if it's a stinking lousy budget even with u.i. in it we may not vote for it. there's much improvement that had to take place in the bill for us vote for it, and that improvement did take place. >> dana bash following all of this up on capitol hill. so is the bill likely to pass later this afternoon despite some differences, a rift among republicans, and some democrats aren't crazy about it either? >> reporter: it does look like it is heading towards passage. we'll see how big the split is in both parties, as we see the vote take place later today. the most interesting drama that has been going on and escalating today, wolf, within the republican party. specifically, john boehner lashing out at outside conservative groups because they came out very strongly, and are continuing to do that as we speak, against the budget bill. but the problem is they did it before the budget agreement was even announced. and so, i asked john boehner about that. listen to what he said. mr. speaker, you were pretty tough on outside conservative groups

cheerleaders mr elect bork founder of the nationalist party and the men inspired by the actions of the u.i. aides wartime militias they took up machine guns and fought the russians the germans and the jews those who quote wanted to take away our ukrainian land and this is. another far right activist from the radical nationalist but movement so we need war that's the one thing an organization like cars can't exist without war. is one of those suspected of arranging the bulldozer action key of over the weekend men will present the ultra nationalist sentiment that is popular in western ukraine which has traditionally gravitated towards europe rather than moscow many hope we will fight for the european union until the end and even if they bring your tanks we will win which must go i'm ready to pick up any keep forty seven and start shooting up to a thousand people go to kiev every day and our motto is together to the end our resistance forces consist of afghanistan war veterans and former security service officials recent polls show the country's sharply divided on the issue with more than sev

. $25 million as the cost for u.i. extension. be paid for or is the white house position it is an emergency issue? >> we have a plan put forward on this and the president made it clear the other day. congress has, in the past, i noted the seven percent unemployment rate. which atticked down from 7.3% but it isood news still far too high and still significantly higher than the unemployment rate which compelled president george w. bush to sign an extense of unemployment benefits when he was in office. on the long-term unemployed i news we havee today reenforces that we need to extend this problem and those unemployment insurance individualsthose because this is a persistent problem. as i noted when president bush extendingou unemployment insurance benefits the average person was i believe 17r weeks. now it is 36. what we saw today for that unemployed even though the overall number of unmany ployed americans fell in november, the number of long-term unemployed stayed pretty steady. that is more evidence that we address this problem

but no one is getting -- socking away a lot of money on their u.i. benefits. and indeed, a recent report by the white house counsel on economic advisors looked at the economic tradeoffs that are being faced. and in their words -- "in choosing the optimal unemployment insurance policy, policy-makers must weigh competing costs and benefits. on the one hand, some argue that extended benefits my dull the incentives for unemployed workers efforts to search for another job, leading to increased unemployment, the so-called moral hazard effect. but, on the other hand, providing benefits gives families income that can in the limited keep them from poverty and more generally help them to finance a longer job search that might ultimately result in a job better matching their talents, resulting in higher overall labor market productivity." these are i think important aspects that have to be considered. and i think the consensus of many economists is that this program is not only necessary and essential but it also does not significantly inhibit the willingness, the abilit

people don't need u.i., unemployment insurance. but if you look at the share of people who have been uninsured for the long-term, at least half a year, it's actually twice what it's been in the past when congress has allowed such extensions to expire. that's the micro side. the macro side is of course these people go out and spend their money and that gives the economy a boost that it still needs. yes, we're growing quicker but we're not out of the woods yet. >> now, e.j., we just saw people -- these are real people. these are not caricatures that we see from the republicans. these are real people telling real stories. how do we ignore that and how do we deal with the fact that people in eight days are on the verge of losing unemployment benefits. >> well, i think one thing is no one can keep quiet about it and i think the democrats have to keep finding ways of brings this up in the new year. and it's very important. this really is targeted assistance. this goes to people in states and places where there is an exceptionally high le

and actually, also good for the economy to do that u.i. extension.e's argument about why not to do it. and that's the biggest weakness of the deal. >> what would you set it at? 6%? 6.5%? >> you know, i'd probably set it at around 6% for the unemployment rate as measured now, but then i'd also look at the disaffected workers and probably do calculation. i don't have that in my mind to give you a number today. >> thank you, sir. >> you bet. >>> trivia time. it was south carolina who was the first state to be represented by an african-american in congress. it happened 143 years ago today. joseph rainey of south carolina took his seat in the house, becoming america's first african-american congressman. >>> congratulations to today's winner, david hotz. send your suggestions in. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] make every smile a 3d white smile with crest 3d white toothpaste. it removes up to 90% of surface stains in just 5 days. unleash your smile with crest 3d white toothpaste. life opens up with a whiter smile. so i got the windows nokia table

and in terms of income, over 40% of those households new to receiving u.i. in 2012 had household income between $30,000 and $75,000. that's an important point to make. these are wor working families. these are people that were enjoying a reasonably good living and suddenly, because of many changes -- globalization, downsizing, you name it -- they were without a job in a very difficult job market. and they went from being people with good, solid, middle class jobs to looking desperately for work. and at least this program gave them some support as they made that great effort to look for work. so this program has been and continues to be a crucial benefit to millions of american households all over the country, of nearly every conceivable demographic background. and it's become a significant part of our recovery, too. its expiration will hurt families. it's been estimated that if we do not extend this program for the next year, we will lose 200,000 jobs, because the logic of this program is very compelling. people who are receiving these benefits, people who u

the end is we put pressure on from the house side but the democrats in the senate will take up some u.i, try to send something over to the house of representatives. but again, at the end of the day, if the majority in the house of representatives refuse to provide unemployment to people, we're going to have to fight it every way we can. the speaker is holding that up. he's made that very clear. >> congressman, you should be credited in your efforts over the weekend. just specifically because i know this is what you were heavily involved in, can you explain how the $12 billion of cuts for military veterans or pensioners will be apportioned? >> well, in that area, again, what the democrats had said is we should use savings from cutting agriculture subsidies to cover the gap. but the republicans refuse to use the ag bill savings for this purpose. so at the end of the day there are $6 billion from future federal employees by increasing their pension contributions for future hires and then the republicans have also the $6 billion that affects military retirees between the age of 40 and 62. i

the amendments would extend u.i. for one month, three months or a year respectively. and while i believe the best policies extend unemployment insurance for one year in order to keep our economic recovery moving forward, i'm willing to work with my colleagues who objected to extending it for the full year to find a path forward. but we must, i think, we must provide at least a message to those people that they will not see their benefits eliminated on december 28. that we will in fact be working to make sure that this protection is in place for families all across this country. over the next several days i'll be coming to the floor seeking consent and urging my colleagues to extend unemployment insurance. the expiration of unemployment insurance will be devastating to families across the entire nation who rely on this as really the last remaining source of support in many cases for the people who have worked hard for many years. and because of this economy have lost their jobs. this is a stressful time. my home state of rhode island has an unemployment rate of 9.2%. w