u.k. court of appeals ruled that the government could not assert state secrets or use state secret evidence in its defense stating that quote allegations of wrongdoing had to be heard in public but that's the u.k. and i want to ask you about the whys what kind of a message does it send when you pull out the state secrets card to shut down all portress lushly this related lawsuits but you sent to jail the person who blew the whistle on torture well we addressed that in the report to a certain degree because for example lithuania and poland both were initiating investigations as to the black sites that were. in those two countries and whether there was torture and treatment maltreatment of prisoners there detainees there and the united states has not cooperated with that under the so-called state secrets. and we have suggested that we should cooperate with our countries there. and that's one of the recommendations that our report. not to use the state's card . and there are ways to to cooperate and to give information without harming either personnel. under the state secrets doctrine or parti

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