u.n. security council meets or a briefing on yemen. the u.s., china and others remember the legacy of jimmy carter who passed away one day before the meeting convened. >> i should like to pay tribute to james earl carter, the 39th president of the united states of america, who passed away yesterday at the age of 100. president carter was a peacemaker who worked tirelessly and effectively in support of conflict mediation, the furtherance of human rights, and the strengthening of democracy. while he was in office and during his many years of service thereafter. the members of the security council convey their deepest sympathy to president carter's family and the government and people of the united states. i would ask all in the chamber now to rise and join in a minute of silence in memory of president jimmy carter. i thank you. the provisional agenda for this meeting is threats to international peace and security. the agenda is adopted. in accordance with rule 37 of the councils provisional

remains essential but the u.n. is not sufficient. we need to try to remake the u.n. as much as possible. i would say some of the outcomes of the summit of the future held at the u.n. in the fall after unga were positive directions including some real progress in the concept of the un security council reform. we have to keep pushing to remake the u.n. as we can but also to think about how do we supplement the u.n. and augment the capacity to solve and manage mobile problems when the u.n. is incapable of acting. a lot of that has to do with recognizing that we are living in a multi-power world and a world in which power is much more dispersed than it has been in the past. one of the logics of the past that we have to divest from is this notion of great power dominance because it is not as accepted by the rest of the world. and that is a logic that goes back to essentially the napoleonic wars. and the congress of vienna. and that is when great power dominance was invented and it has been codified in the un security council. but, it is being rejected by this global major

the u.n. turns 80 this year so i had to ask is it possible to even retrofit this organization and has the u.n. had its day is it time to terminate? it's adjusting you would ask that question the way that you did because yesterday i had a private meeting with one u.s. senator whose name i will not mention who basically said the same thing, should we pay any attention to the u.n. and what is it doing for us and what is it doing for the world? my answer to this is the u.n. remains essential that the u.n. is not sufficiently need to try to remake the u.n. as much as possible and i would say some of the outcomes of the future summit held at the u.n. in the fall were some positive directions including some real progress in in the concept of the u.n. security council reform so we had to pushwe to remake te u.n. as we can but we had to think about how do we supplement the u.n. and augment the capacity to solve and manage global problems when the u.n. is incapable of that and a lot of that has to do wi

but the u.n. also provides a platform for ongoing dialogue that can ensure the interoperability of governance approaches around the world. to be effective, the meaningful inclusion of all stakeholders, state and non-state is essential. with several resolutions in the military field including the compact, the general assembly has begun establishing the principles based on 20 years of u.n. experience in the digital field since the world summit on the information society. this work is complimented by other initiatives such as the responsible ai in the military domain summit. it is essential that this counsel also articulate this perspective on inclusive governance in order to contribute to existing processes and liberations. second, art ificial intelligenc is an opportunity for more effective implementation of the council's mandate. as a tool, artificial intelligence can facilitate the implementation of security council mandates. switzerland organized an area tomorrow la meeting in may 2024 to illust

moreover, important work within the u.n. is under way regarding the establishment of a global dialogue on a.i. governance and rightly so, a.i. governance is becoming increasingly essential to global security and includes inclusive multilateral engagement at all levels including within the security council. as the secretary-general has noted artificial intelligence represents both the greatest opportunity and at the same time an existential threat. we need constant stability a.i. can on one hand be harnessed positively for example to support efforts for conflict resolution and peace building. on the other hand a.i. can enhance disinformation campaigns, violent extremist content and propaganda. used to fuel the proliferation of autonomous weapons. therefore, we strongly believe that the council's primary role in maintaining international peace and security necessitates addressing a.i.-related risks to ensure that a.i. is designed, developed, and deployed in use with full compliance of international law and humanitarian law and

the u.n. has come out with so many statements, not only statements, but activities particularly with the united nations relief organization, contraire ry to what's happening on the ground and working with hamas and other terrorist organizations. you're an ambassador to the u.n. can we believe any of the statements that come out from the u.n. about what's happening with many so of their organizations on the ground in the mideast? >> well, david, unfortunately the u.n. is biased from october 7th, you know, they're not looking at the facts. they support the hamas from the beginning. war and look at the issue of the hospitals. those are not hospitals, those are headquarters for terrorists. you know, you will not find in any hospital in the united states weapons, explosives, you will not terrorists, you will find doctors and nurses. when we walk into those places, the fact is we arrest the terrorists with weapons so the terrorists are trying to take advantage of those facilities and you mentioned u

we are working with the u.n. high commissioner for human rights and we just met with him to talk about bangladesh and his efforts to go out there and lead an international team to focus on transitional justice to hold accountable those who are responsible for these crimes. mohammad yunus has agreed to come back and lead this transition that is an incredible mark of public service. he is coming back and he has a very, very hard job to lead in this transition environment when people want to see that democracy delivers. we are thinking how to help him deliver on accountability and protection of minorities to make sure there is no jihadi threat. as you say, that could very much scare people, but also make the case that democracy is that for security, which we don't want. we are trying to help mohammad yunus. the secretary and i met with him at the u.n. two weeks ago and he is working very hard. one thing he is trying to do which is top of mind is to work on jobs. he understands that the students in the streets that w

untraditional justice we are making a significant effort in working with the u.n. and the u.n. high commissioner for human rights and we just met with him to talk about bangladesh and its efforts to go out there and to lead an international team to focus on traditional justice to hold as you say them accountable mohammed has agreed to come back and lead this transition and that is an incredible market public service because again he's been in exile. he is coming back and he has a very hard job to lead in this transition environment when people want to see again democracy delivered. we are thinking the us government how to help them. deliver and protection of minorities deliver on security to make sure there is no jihadists threats. they want to make the case that democracy is bad which we don't want. we are trying to help a homak and the secretary nights is met with him two weeks ago at the u.n. and he's working very hard. one thing he's trying to do which is top of mind is to work on jobs. he understands correctly that the students in the streets who are part of this movement

we worked with the u.n. to mediate a truce in yemen. with econtinued to lead and strengthen an 87-nation countericisco lition. in the wake of the trump's administration misguided exit from the iran nuclear deal we made clear there was a path to compliance if itehran was willing to take the steps necessary. >> secretary blinken! your legacy will be genocide. you will forever be known as bloody blinken! secretary of genocide! you have the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent people on your hands! we have -- secretary blinken: i respect your views, please allow me to share mine. >> we appeal to your humantism we write your letters, the blood of innocent civilians, of children is on your hands! we will not forget. we will not forgive we will hold you accountable. we will hold you accountable. bloody blinken! secretary of genocide so to continue, at the same time we strengthen america's robust regime on iran and deliver president biden's commitment that iran would not obtain a finally, we made significant progress on a agreement that w

which was embraced by countries around the world and endorsed overwhelmingly by the u.n. u.n.security council. the deal is structured in three phrases. phase one will last six weeks. it includes a full and complete cease-fire, withdrawal of israeli forces from all the populated areas of gaza, and, and the release of a number of hostages held by hamas, including women and elderly and the wounded. i'm proud to say americans will be part of that hostage release in phase one as well. the vice president and i cannot wait to welcome them home. in exchange, israel will release hundreds of palestinian prisoners. during phase one the palestinians can also return to their neighborhoods. in all areas of gaza. the surge in humanitarian assistance in gaza will begin. and the innocent people can have a greater access to these vital supplies. during the next six weeks israel will negotiate the necessary arrangements to get phase two, which is a permanent end of the war. say that again, permanent end of the war. there are a number of details to negotiate to move from phase one to phase t

others i met in large groups but individually when i visited the u.n. in new york. in the other three years, i met a number of others. i am a professor at emory university. this is my 16th year. i have given a lot of lectures earlier. i do not do it anymore. one of the most popular questions i get is who is the greatest leader you have ever met in your life? i have only had one answer. [applause] i first met him a few months after i became president. i taught sunday school for many years. i have a deep religious interest in the holy land. the importance of the middle east personally and to those who share faith in god and to those concerned about the integrity and the future peace about my own country. there was an alignment of forces in the middle east, very disturbing, with the powerful soviet union and the depths of the cold war, aligned with certain groups, and with our country aligned with others. i felt it incumbent on myself to cast aside any restraints about political popularity or failure being a negative factor. i began to meet, when i went to meet prime m

we know that the u.n. is a den of anti-semitism that has only gotten worse under joe biden and kamala harris' watch. ever since the barbaric terrorist attack, the u.n. continuously betrays israel acting as apologists for the terrace of hamas and iran. this included disgracefully deleting the condemnation of hamas for sexual violence, succumbing to pressure from pro hamas mobs. included united nations office revising the death toll in gaza down by 50% because it relied on false information provided by the hamas-controlled ministry of health. [applause] and most egregiously, it included unrwa, perhaps the most revealing of all, which had a hamas data center underneath its headquarters having nearly two dozen staff members directly involved in the october 7 terrorist attacks with another 100 with terrorist ties. that is why we need to defund unwrapped immediately! -- defund unwrah immediately! of course, it included the absurdly named human rights council composed of some of the worst human rights abusers hav

itself because there's a lot of u.n. activity very visible on the african continent and when it does not deliver, it breeds tremendous amount of resentment it's why you see people demanding peacekeepers go home so there's all this anger and resentment. at the same time a lot of enthusiasm for multilateralism. and because that's where african voice gains power. because there are some in the african states, it becomes a draw for other powers then to engage diplomatically and really think about african interests if they are worried about those votes in multilateral forums. this is one of the reason why brics has a lot of appeal on the continent. and yes, it is kind of a nonsensical grouping of countries, but this idea that yes we want to be multilateral and we are pushing back against any idea of the unicorn world, but none of these institutions were made, designed with our equities in mind and they have failed us. elliott: listening to all of this, it does not bode well for the effectiveness of either the general assembly

. >> andy young was his u.n.nathan alter, in the closing minutes of our time here today, our very cold time, the allman brothers, the other rock stars who were his friends before and throughout the 1976 campaign -- yeah. they campaigned with him and stuck with him through thick and thin. you know, bans came out to honor him. an incredible concert in atlanta. >> there are these strains in the 1970s when he was both governor and president that were very influential. it was a better time in many ways and his political failures were a reflection of the challenges of the '70s, but there was continuity. andy young as he explained to me when i was writing my book, he was instructed by jimmy carter who became the u.n. ambassador to say to the rest of the world, what can we do for you? until then it had been what can you as smaller countries do for us? young said this was a transformative change. human rights policies, the continuation and the globalization of the movement. this eventually had a lot to do with the end of

the u.n.ays gaza's health care system is, quote, on the brink of collapse. a surgeon who has spent time there joins me next to speak about the human suffering she witnessed firsthand. stay with us can't fool myself. >> it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life had extremely joyful moments and some really difficult moments. >> you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. >> luther. never too much tonight at nine. >> want a next level clean swish with the whoa of listerine. it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean with listerine. feel the whoa! >> sore throat. got your tongue? >> mucinex. instant sore throat. >> medicated drops uniquely formulated for rapid relief that lasts and lasts. that's my baby. >> try our new sugar free cough drop ins to soothe life. >> diabetes. there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you

that framework was endorsed by the u.n. security council and remains the operative framework for a cease-fire and hostage deal in gaza. it is the deal that the parties right now are working off of to try to close. so that broad framework includes the phases, prisoner exchange for hostages, a surge of humanitarian assistance. once the guns go quiet, by we'll be able to move trucks more rapidly. since june, we have had multiple efforts to close the deal. we have come close and haven't been able to get across the line. there have been some details, particularly around the formulas with respect to prisoner release, formulas around the exact disposition of israeli forces, and other things along those lines. those details we have been hammering away at week after week, month after month. and now in the last period, just over the course of the last several weeks, we have accelerated that effort to try to bring this to a close. i was in israel in december, and then i was in qatar and egypt. i met with the leaders of all three count

but if you want to say they have a seat at the u.n., go ahead, go to town.ber one take facial recognition of all these people. got make sure we are tracking all of them. we put people in the middle there, that's what we used to do. go back to that i'm encouraged speaker johnson columbia. i want to talk to the president and tell you this is not okay. the speaker holding one chamber in washington. now there is going to be a senate. there is going to be republican house and a republican president. i want to see this threat executed on these universities. >> lawrence: before he gets there, he has to get through a big vote today. today house lawmakers will decide if house speaker mike johnson keeping his gavel. bine brian meanwhile republicans on capitol hill are considering new rulings that would make it tougher to oust a speaker in this new congress. >> emily: alexandria hoff is live at the white house with all the details. good morning. >> alex: good morning to you, the only person who wants this to be wrapped up faster than speaker johnson would be president-

the u.n. has sponsored bun -- one of the biggest coalitions of this kind.ht now blackrock is moving towards dropping out of this coalition, and it would be a huge move if that happens. it would signal that, if they do it -- and from what i understand, tear pretty close, liz -- that esg is probably on its last legs here as an investment discipline, manager that obviously has come under a lot of pressure. republicans hate it. consumers don't like it because, remember, esg forces you to scale back on oil exploration, and if that caused probably one of the major contributors to inflation and higher gas prices particularly after russia invaded ukraine and we had supply shortages. so this is a huge thing, if blackrock goes there. my guess is they're moving towards going there. they will use esg very sporadically, probably with clients that ask for it like blue state pension funds and overseas investors. but as a discipline that's widely used, esg is out at probably the biggest asset manager proponent of esg, blackrock. as you know, we've had larry fink if on this

report suggesting that we are seeing states that benefit from chinese assistance over russia in the u.n., so we are seeing this triangular coordination across international institutions. how do african countries in general see the china-russia relationship, are we seeing influence by one power benefit the other? michelle: you are right, of course, there is always a diversity of views. broadly speaking, for most african governments and societies, these are two very distinct partners. both have long histories on the continent. china offering is much more robust in terms of what that partnership can look like with african states. obviously, the famous investments in infrastructure. but it goes well beyond that to technology, smart cities investments but also help more authoritarian governments keep track of urban opposition, a wealth of economic ties. the chinese foreign minister is on the continent right now, consistently making his first trip every year, a trip to africa. there are political party trainings. it is kind of a full suite of engagements. if you look at popular opinion, china

because anybody who knows how the u.n. works knows it is a freaking mess. it's a messy, large bureaucracy. and, in fact, we have in this country because we don't have a better system, we have entrusted a a bureaucracy to try to implement laws that are supposed to be based upon our recognition of the right of family and a recognition of the duty to protect children. unfortunately we don't do good job of that sometimes. thanks. >> good afternoon. i'm ron richter, and i currently run a large child and family services business in the new york metropolitan area called jcca. we are 203 years old this year. and we have been doing sort of the same thing since the beginning, although i hope we have innovated over time. i am really thankful of naomi and aei for fostering this really important conversation. as someone who has been doing work related to these struggles for, i'm shocked to say, 35 years, i'm thrilled that these questions are coming to the fore in a much more meaningful way. so i want to say that i i agre with the general proposition, absolutely, childre

the u.n. latest survey by the u.n.hild has not eaten for the past three days in their households prior to their survey. the statistics are alarming and i think that's really what we should be calling the attention to. >> what is needed and can it even get to them? can aid even get to gaza at this point? >> that's a good question. we have been calling for a peaceful passage, a safe passage for aid to get in. there were designated corridors through which supplies can come in. what little amount is coming in is really just a drop in the ocean of needs that exists in gaza and are continuing to exacerbate. we've been talking about the winter months that are sitting in on gaza. last year as well, gazans were dealing with harsh conditions of the winter. at that time, though, there were still some buildings that existed where people could take shelter in. what our colleagues are telling us today is that so much of that infrastructure is completely destroyed. all that's left is tents and makeshift tents that people are putting

this thing about the u.n., i want to read part of the u.n. charter.fied theories for why everything is so messed up in the world is that literally losing the actual generation that remember the horrors of world war ii, and some of the lessons that gave about fascism and great power conflict. the united nations charter preamble, we the peoples of the united nations, determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime have brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbors, have resolved to combine our efforts to accomplish these aims. you know, grabbing other people's land, and that's the other thing about this troll. the greenland thing is -- he talked about it a little the way that putin talked about crimea. >> totally. >> if you ask them, they really kind of want to join us. i'm sure maybe they had a little plebiscite over there, maybe they'd vote for us. it's the same thing. >> absolutely, and i feel like we don't actually have to go th

it was during the u.n. meeting and thought they were going to do it in new york. they said we want to do it in delaware. so people can know we are friends. our democracy and economy, security supply chains, technology and so much more. in the red sea brought together more than 20 countries to protect civilian ships that were attacked by the houthis. defending freedom of navigation, one of the world's busiest waterways and extending partnerships across the americas, defending democracy, addressing migration, increasing prosperity and protecting amazon rain forest which captures billions of tons of carbon in the atmosphere every year. we have reinvigorated people's faith in the united states as a true partner. today i can report to the american people, our adversaries are weaker than when we came in four years ago. just consider russia. when putin invaded ukraine he thought he would conquer keefe in a matter of days. i'm the only one who stood in the center of keefe, not him. putin never has. think about it. [applause] long train ride and only commander in chief to

along with the u.n. association of the usa. my question is a u.n.-y kind of question, picking at the scap of w.h.o.. to what extent when you have been making the rounds on the hill and particularly among republican members of the house, have you gotten some sense of what their beef is with the w.h.o. with the organization or with international cooperation more generally? to what extent have you found constituencies in kind of conservative-friendly sectors of civil society thinking of the faith-based communities, who have been willing to carry some water on health issues? domestic, but particularly foreign. to what extent have you found that the only african director of the w.h.o. agency, which the trump folks were hinting was a sign of in confidence simply by dint of origin of continent. and what changes do you think w.h.o. should be pressed even in the most enlightened u.s. administration? dr. cohen: there is a lot in there that is probably whole talk. [laughter] let me do a few things. i have said this to a lot of my global health colleagues. i th

. >> is that a violation of the u.n.security council >> i think you've said that previously many times before. again it's something we have seen the dprk conduct in the past and we take it seriously and will continue to consult with our allies. senate president zelensky said he was could enforce an end to the world -- the war with -- made for ukraine. i'm going to let presents a lens keys words speak for itself but he's the one that ultimately will have to decide how this war comes to a conclusion. that's not for us to dictate and not for us to dictate the terms. what we are doing is united states and thee department defense is what the secretary is done in 2022 bring together partners under the coalition to help ukraine and what it needs in the short-term and the long-term in the battlefield requirements. they will convene tomorrow. >> the helicopters coming from san diego and the other navy bases in california. >> i don't have information on where they are coming from. >> over the past 30 dayshe or so centcom has annou

back it was during the u.n. beating them without we're going to do it in new york.it in delaware. i said said we can let people know we are really friends. our democracy, vibrant economies working closely, security, supply chain, technology and so much more. in the red sea we brought together more than 20 countries to perfect, to protect civilian ships attacked by the houthis. defending freedom of navigation, one of the world's busiest waterways, and with strength partnerships all across the americas defending democracy, targeting corruption, addressing migration, increasing prosperity and protecting amazon rain forest which captures aliens of times, billions of tons of carbon in the atmosphere every year. overall, we have reinvigorate peoples faith in the united states as a true, true partner here today, , i can report to te american people our adversaries are weaker than where we came into this job for you to go. just consider russia. when putin invaded ukraine he thought he could conquer kyiv in a matter of days. the truth is, since that were begin, i'm the only

ambassador to the u.n. he could get a handle of votes. john fetterman of pennsylvania has already said he's going to support her, so i think there are a number of cabinet nominees who are going to secure democratic support. the question is how many, and will that even be necessary because again, you got 53 republicans in the senate and all of them support this respective nominee whoever you're talking about, you don't need all the democrats. host: tennessee, republican, good morning. caller: thanks for coming on c-span and talking to everybody but i have to take issue with you and everyone else making a big issue at of section 702 to spy on americans for no reason, other than washington wants to start -- spy on them. the border has been wide open for four years, anyone can walk in. suddenly tulsa gabbert is some kind of national security threat? you guys are -- leading us, we are not stupid. this is why everyone in america hates everyone in washington and why we really -- elected a reality start. host: let me ask you, do you think it was

this past may, which was embraced by countries around the world and endorsed overwhelmingly by the u.n. security council. the deal is structured in three phases. phase one will last six weeks. it includes a full and complete cease fire, a withdrawal of israeli forces from all the populated areas of gaza, and the release of a number of hostages held by hamas, including women and elderly and the wounded. and i'm proud to say americans will be part of that hostage release on phase one as well. and the vice president and i cannot wait to welcome them home. in exchange, israel released hundreds of palestinian prisoners. and during phase one, the palestinians can also return to their neighborhoods in all the areas of gaza. and the surge humanitarian assistance into gaza will begin, and the innocent people can have a greater access to these vital supplies. you know, during the next six weeks, israel will negotiate the necessary arrangements to get phase two, which is a permanent end of the war. let me say it again. a permanent end of the war. there are a number of details to negotiate, to mov

his office, his presidency also invested in the u.n. a human rights office that became the un high commissioner for human rights. so this was an investment in the global norm, development of human rights that president and walter mondale want. walter mondale both committed to and acted on. this is significant. and what was happening at the same time was the human movement and amnesty international was given the nobel prize in 1977 during the cartoonist oration. there was really an upsurge of a human rights movement. president carter and his administration injected movement with energy, with moral support, moral. the other thing that he did when he and pat darian and mrs. carter to latin america, you mentioned latin america. this was our hemisphere. yet he sent pat darian the assistant secretary for human rights, who was an amazing champion for. human rights. and i see some of her colleagues, roberta cohen and tex harris and others that are here with us today who brought that message to the dictatorships in latin america. in fact, you kn

but the aid will be distribute through our humanitarian partners, largely the u.n. agencies there on the ground, nonprofit, nongovernmental organizations. >> the structure has been destroyed is our understanding, so how do you intend to be able to do that? >> so that's true but there are still warehouses in gaza that are functions now. some of the warehouses that exist haven't been destroyed but aid organizations haven't been able to get to them because of the security situation. we think they'll be able to turn those warehouses back on. we believe they'll be able to surge the number of trucks that go in and move around. specifics of that, i would of course defer to the aid organizations who are expert in how to do this. but in all of our conversations with them, they are confident that they will be able to massively increase the amount of humanitarian assistance that gets in once the ceasefire is final. >> do you anticipate any travel now that the ceasefire has been agreed? >> by the secretary? i do not. we still have five days but i don't have anything as i stand

best-selling author of american rows, tempter soldier spy and award for best fact crime and the novelve for u.n.. native philadelphia she lifted new york city and in greenport new york. she formerly wrote and her new book which we are here for today is called "eden undone" "a true story of sex, murder and utopia at the dawn of world war ii". hampton silos sides is right there's a dash of comrade darwin and robinson caruso and certainly more thanai that with of. "edenn undone" is mesmerizing ad completely tragic compellingly tragic. she confronts a truth about civilization per twice a night we can't delude her own nature. hollywood has this copy and ron howard is adapting the theme story to the big screen in a movie called eden starring jude law which will come out in 2025. it's an honor to host abbott at the harrisburg book festival so without further ado please join me in giving her a warm round of applause. [applause] seem to think everybody for coming up s and thank you stuart for that introduction and i really appreciate your enthusiasm for the story in general. >> i can't tell you how many

to the united nations and chair of the u.n. commission on human rights. writing a daily syndicated newspaper column and a monthly feature in mccall's magazine, presenting a radio show on weekdays and a sunday afternoon television program. serving on the board of the acp. among the other lectures, articles. political campaigns and boards. she somehow into her schedule. the first lady of the world traveled as an informal ambassador promoting human rights across the globe, always a symbol of president franklin roosevelt and the new deal. she remained a persistent influence within the democratic party at times suggested as a candidate for senator from new york, ambassador to france, vice president and even president of the united states. she was asked on meet the press in 1957 if she would consider running for president and. she just laughed and said she was too old. she was 73. and she was also asked, well, do you see that? we'll a woman president in the future? she believed the we would. and so i think she'd be surprised about that, too. at the 1960 democra

carter reached out to the people who he knew in the u.n. and said, don't support president bush's position. which some would regard as being treasonous to challenge what a sitting president is attempting to do in the arena. bush succeeded. he got the u.n. approval. the gulf war was an incredible success. president clinton had used carter in a haiti situation with success. but then he sent him to north korea and just to kind of get the measure of the dictator over there. all of a sudden carter's negotiating with with the dictator. he's on television. so in essence when he got on that world stage he went rogue way beyond what his intruckses from the president -- instructions from the president had been. it was really a mixed legacy. after those situations presidents stopped using him because you didn't know if he was going to abide by the instructions he was given or not. obviously if somebody's representing the president of the united states abroad, you want to feel like that person's going to do what you say and what you have instructed him

. >> jeff with new jersey capital city redevelopment, along with the u.n.. taking us back to picking up the scab of w.h.o., that was close before. to what extent have you been making the rounds on the hill and republican members of the house and senate? have you gotten a sense of what their beef is with the w.h.o.? or with international cooperation, have you found constituencies in conservative friendly sectors thinking of communities carrying water on health issues domestic, but particularly foreign -- it is headed by the only african who is a director. trump folks were hinting at incompetence by origin of consonant and what should w.h.o. adopt? >> there is a lot in there. one, i said a lot to my colleagues, i think cdc showing lessons from domestic work on covid is the foundation on which -- if we don't have our house in order folks don't know how they can fund our work. i focused on improving to show we are responsive and worse investing in. when we help folks understand and see our work firsthand and how we can stop an outbreak, if you imagine one case o

korea's side, for example, north korea is having its assets in russian banks that were frozen under u.n. security council resolution direction, being unfrozen, a diplomatic lifeline being thrown to the north koreans where previously china had the prerogative there. and so you see each of these countries becoming potentially more dangerous than they would be on their own because of the support they can rely on from the other members, and then again in this broader sense, you see a place for other rejectionist countries to defect to. so if you don't like the way the world is ordered now, for many years you could sort of shake your fist at the world or become something of a rogue state, but there wasn't this sort of viable alternative to it. and now these four countries plus others are trying to construct what they believe to be a viable alternative to it and that's one to which other dissatisfied countries could add weight. bay: yeah, that's really interesting. ambassador blackwill, can you speak more about the alliance on the economic front and what the implications are for u.s. policy i