specifically, iran/u.s. relations. while iran/u.s. relations also is a subsidiary issue of iran/israel issues, conflict between iran and israel. since countries like india, pakistan and israel enjoy strategic relations with the u.s. and the west even though they are not member of non-proliferation treaty and possess massive arsenal of nuclear weapons. where is the problem? and what can be done? on the nuclear issue, talks between iran and event u. 3-d -- e.u.3 in 2003-2005 failed because the u.s. was not on board. agreements between iran, turkey, brazil in may 2010 failed because of the u.s. objection. russia in step-by-step program in summer 2011 failed because the u.s. declined. even the recent talks in istanbul, bag dodd, moscow failed -- baghdad, moscow failed because the u.s. was not ready to compromise on two major issues in response to iran's overchurch first, recognizing the legitimate rights of npt and gradually lifting sanctions. that's why i always have advocated a realistic dual-track policy. first, the bilateral talk betwe

u.s. iran and israel the rhetoric has heated up so much that all sides are weighing in leaving it to you and me to sort through the rhetoric and find the truth. so what can we expect from each country as they struggle to gain the upper hand in a political play that may not favor any one one country act without the other and where all the fear mongering lead to here to help us break this all down is jamal abby policy director of the national iranian american council thanks for coming on so you worked in congress for a while and you are pretty much an expert when it comes to u.s. foreign policy affairs regarding iran we just heard general dempsey recently talk about i mean quote he said diplomacy sanctions and sabotage need more time i mean when we're talking about iran sanctions here are they really achieving the desired result or will it inhibit a troop deployment a diplomatic solution here that's i mean that's actually the problem here the sanctions have in many regards stood in the way of a d

it was iran who proposed to the u.s. and europeans that we do not want to have high level enrichment. we want to stay below 5%. we don't want to have 20%. just give us the fuel rods. the western countries, they declined. iran had no other option to increase the level of enrichment to 0%. -- 20%. when you read stories about iranian nuclear issue, today the core issue is 20%. iran has enriched up to 20%. therefore, they want to make nuclear bombs. this is the story you read everywhere. but they don't tell you the truth. in september 2011, iranian foreign minister and president they came to new york here for the united nation assembly, and they proposed the u.s. and the west. they said now we have 20%, we are ready to stop. we are ready to go back to 3.5% if you pro provide us the fuel rod. because about a million patients with cancer need it. and they said -- they declined. twass iranian proposed to stop 20%, to go to below 5% as long as enrichment is below 5% it is no danger of any nuclear weapon at all. everybody knows. t

u.s. and iran actually went to the table a few months ago. the real problem was that you did put some offers on the table as far as curbing their nuclear program and they wanted in exchange for the u.s. or the e.u. to curb some of their sanctions this was supposed to be a sort of near term confidence building step and i'm not saying that the iranians necessarily were asking for the most equitable deal possible but they definitely wanted a quid pro quo at least on a limited level and the u.s. was unwilling to give up any of the sanctions in order to get an iranian deal so really the sanctions haven't been so much leverage in order to get the iranians to do you know what the u.s. wants it to do the same as have been sort of a testament to how tough we're going to be and unless you ron is willing to fully capitulate it seems like the u.s. is unwilling to lift and so they're just going to continue to escalate tensions are going to continue to mount and we get closer and closer to a military confrontation and we see there's obama right there signi

obama has managed to put more pressure and more sections on iran than any other u.s. presidents. he has managed to have feet asians cut the buying of oil from iran. he has done so by pursuing a policy in which he is minimizing his differences with those countries to make sure they can come to an agreement on the iran. there is a meeting with people from mitt romney's campaign and several ambassadors. without going into detail, several of the ambassadors walked out. because of their frustration and disappointment of what was being communicated. if you are sitting in tehran, you may think that is attractive because a run the administration that -- a romney administration that cannot sustain that, will make it easier for them. >> is the ongoing talks between the iaea and technical representatives from a ramp and issues like entering the questions on the military dimensions of the iranian nuclear program and about that and making a visit -- any possible nuclear activities their decks do you think such talks have a possibility of progress if there is nothing on this p5 +1 level ? >> th

who put forward an expert analysis paper on what military action against iran would entail the paper states we believe that a u.s. attack on iran would increase ariens motivation to build a bomb. it would take iran a year or more to build a military grade weapon once the decision was made to do so at least two years or more would be required to create a nuclear warhead that is reliably deliverable die a missile as this really pushes ahead with war talk and red lines the obama administration is trying to relieve the pressure any pressure that i feel is simply to do what's right for the american people and i am going to block out any noise that's out there when the president referred to israeli war rhetoric as noise many asked whether the relations between the white house and tell of it have hit a new low all you have to do in this town is say the word israel and everyone is supposed to shrink away everyone supposed to leave the argument because if israel security is in peril then you are an anti-semite or worse if you say opposite opinion americans have made it clear they don't have the stomach for another war in

specifically, iran-u.s. relations. while the relations are is subsidiary issue of iran-is issues.raeli since india, pakistan, and israel enjoy strategic relations with the u.s. and the west even though they are not a member of a non-proliferation trea ty. what can be done? on the nuclear issue, talks etween iran and eu 3 -- germany, france, and the u.k. -- talks failed because the u.s. was not on board. agreements in may 2010 failed because of the u.s. objection. proposal in 2011 failed because of the u.s. declined. even the recent talks in istanbul and moscow failed because the u.s. was not ready to compromise on two major issues in response to iran's overture. first, recognizing the rights of iran, the non-proliferation treaty, and gradually lifting sanctions. that is why i have always advocated a realistic track policy. first, the bilateral talks between iran and the u.s. on a comprehensive package including all bilateral, regional, and international issues. a direct talk between iran and the u.s. the second track be

u.s. publicly say is that they are at they do have disagreements with iran and this is one of the groups that will help them and they did before yes certainly groups on this terrorist list u.s. citizens are forbidden from giving any sort of support whether it's advice whether it's money coming off that list means that you know people here in the u.s. people in other allied countries can safely give money and other forms of support to the group but you say that their goal is to unseat ahmadinejad to get rid of the iranian government as it is currently what do they then want to replace it with i mean do you know do they know we've seen them do that in other countries iraq is one example of ghana's then is an example now what's going on in other arab countries they don't know who is going to. coming next that a lot of people criticize the u.s. also for its short term a short term strategy is meaning that they they're just thinking about they're just thinking of what's going on or what's going to happen if we take this decision today but not about its consequences you know a year down the road an

u.s. and iran were close partners and allies. so does that generation that was trained in the u.s., the american equipment, that very generation must be more or less retired by now. >> guest: they really are. the same place you see those may be in the diplomatic corps where they went to school in the united states for example. i would say that a lot of the officers still love american commitment because the heavy influx after iraq and during desert storm and they purchased it and even then they realize our equipment even though it is 1970's it is still better which has an impact other calculations in the military today. but as the loyalty of those guys a think it is pretty well faded. >> host: we have the same problem which is the generation hoped to be stationed in iran for the very severely incapacities those folks have also most of them have finished their professional career so we do have a generation of folks that have only understood iran is a very distant target and have not had many opportunities to interact. >> guest: tha

iran. never before has the u.s. flexed so much muscle so close to iran. more jets, ships and nations taking part than ever before. the u.s. has sent two aircraft carriers into this region and each one has more than 40 of these -- these are f-18 fighter jets that could reach thousands of miles into iranian air space. to give you a sense of how big this buildup is, each of these carriers has more firepower than the entire iranian air force. it's a blunt warning to iran, don't follow through on a threat to close the strait of hormuz, where one-fifth of all the world's oil passes. if israel attacks iran's nuclear sites, iran promises to fill these waters with boats packed with explosives and mine the seabed. the u.s. hopes tensions calm but desirable thinks iran is six months what a from a nuclear weapon. this international show of force is meant to reassure israel and convince iran not to try anything even if it is attacked. >> as you can see, i can do a lot of damage with the airplanes that are onboard, also the weapons that are in the strike group. but also

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iran -- ahmadinejad. may 31, to dozen 5, u.s. secretary of state condoleezza rice says the u.s. is ready to join in talks with iran if irn suspends uranium enrichment. the united states thought this was an incredible concession. after 31 years of lack of diplomatic relations, the united states had taken the first step. the iranian reaction was, where is the beef? he want to suspend a uranium enrichment and this is the one thing we do not want to do. they thought this was an empty gesture. just to show you how difficult this process is and how one side makes an effort and the other side takes it as not much of anything. now the eu3 merx into a different group. now, the united states is willing to lift all sorts of sanctions. once again, iran rejected it. saying we do not want to spend the enrichment. we suspended it for two years and nothing happened. the policy failed and iran started moving ahead significantly its nuclear program. in august 2008, iran stopped cooperating on this issue. it is dead in the water. then you have president obama being elected. he sends a message to ir

judging by netanyahu said at the united nations, the time may be next spring. >> iran's u.s. ambassador spoke after netanyahu, accusing the prime minister of using an unfounded and imaginary graph to justify a military threat. he said iran reserves the right to retaliate with full force against any attack. >>> in libya, the u.s. is withdrawing more of its diplomat personnel. the drawdown involves some of the embassy staff in tripoli. the state department says the move is temporary and could be reversed next week. a statement on the embassy website warns of possible demonstrations in tripoli and benghazi today. libya's leader says about ten militia groups have been disbanded, calling the attack on the u.s. consulate the final straw. speaking at the pentagon yesterday, secretary of defense leon panetta says there's no doubt the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi was the act of terrorists. >> the reason i think pretty clearly it was a prift attack, is because a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate. and against our individuals. what terrorists

dozens arrested as the times correspondent says the gulf monarchies have managed to convince the u.s. iran is behind the protests. the protests in bahrain which are absolutely legitimate it's the keys of the shiite majority seventy percent of the country protesting because they are treated as second or third rate citizens in their own country by a sunni dynasty which is very close to the house of saud in saudi arabia and the problem is the house of cells the g.c.c. countries the petro monarchies in the persian gulf they managed to convince the us and the west that this is a plot snatched by iran to destabilize the persian gulf which is school pleat lee absurd there is a tradition of protesting bearing that goes on for decades in fact the workers protests they are shiite but they are also sunni is involved and the fact that this is a two tier society if you are a foreign businessman and if you are aligned with the al khalifa as you live a very good life sunni's of course if you are shiites and you have to try to live the bahraini dream let's put it this way for get it most avenues are close

david martin, cbs news, at the pentagon. >> iran's u.s. ambassador spoke after netanyahu, accusing the prime minister of using an unfounded and imaginary graph to justify a military threat. he said iran reserves the right to retaliate with full force against any attack. >>> in libya, the u.s. is withdrawing more of its diplomatic personnel. the drawdown involves some of the embassy staff in tripoli. the state department says the move is temporary and could be reversed next week. a statement on the embassy website warns of possible demonstrations in tripoli and benghazi today. libya's leader says about ten militia groups have been disbanded, calling the attack on the u.s. consulate the final straw. speaking at the pentagon yesterday, secretary of defense leon panetta says there's no doubt the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi was the work of terrorists. >> the reason i think pretty clearly it was a terrorist attack, is because a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate. and against our individuals. what ter

maybe we are in the front line but it will come to the shores of the u.s.. iran is a threat to the american people. >> i think a lot of us are concerned that israel is not the primary target. it is what your book talks about. israel is the big satan but they see the u.s. as big satan and ultimate target. whaps to israel is a precoursor to the united states. iran said they will wipe israel off of the map. >> it is clear. they are not hiding. first they go after the jew in israel and after that we'll go after the sunday people the christians . what we are seeing today, it is not a real partnership. you defend with your friend and allies and the window of opportunity will be closed on us. and israel will have to act by itself it is harder but we can't wight forever. when you have a leader who is full of hatred against the jewish people you can't wait to see if he is serious or not. >> democrats have been very strong for israel both democratic presidents and members of the congress who are democrats are very, very strong for israel and most remain so. the difference

u.s. will do what it must to prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons so here you still have this major divide between the u.s. and iran but it was quite interesting that the iranian president gave somewhat of a reference to the ninety nine percent and occupy wall street. right to discuss ahmadinejad's address in more detail we're joined live by jim ella d. the policy director of the national iranian american council always good to see you here now mr ahmadinejad said the u.n. conference form is duties imposts only because it's dominated by a tight in a circle of world powers is this paranoia all does he have a point well if you look at what's happening inside of iran really if you there are sanctions that are taking an extreme toll on ordinary people there is a sense that there could be imminent strikes whether the strikes threaten by bibi netanyahu or u.s. strikes that president obama referred to in his address and so i think that if there is a sense of being surrounded inside of iran that it is an accurate reflection of what is happening that being said you know. it is a marginalized

u.s. interests and undermine frankly our policy regarding resolving the dispute with iran peacefully i mean you mentioned rudy giuliani and others it's not just former politicians and people who had a former role we're talking about current lawmakers ileana roslin and the chairman of the house foreign relations committee she has apparently accepted at least twenty thousand dollars in donations from iranian american groups or their leaders that went into sort of her you know political campaign war chest that's according to the center for responsive politics and. you know she's been outspoken about the need to delist and u.k. and to protect when they were living many of the members were living at camp i just wanna play a little bit of what she said the safety of the residents of camp ashraf is a pretty it's in jeopardy right here right now right this moment it will be in jeopardy until the international community says this is unacceptable this cannot happen. so jamal why do you think so many former and current. people involved in politics accepted money and sort of now go to bat for this grou

independent researcher soraya support paul ragan believes iran is the main barrier to u.s. domination in the region mr brime ki-moon does recognize the fact and he has said so this iran is a key player in the region and nothing much really can be solved q sours if you want participation and i'm sure that the united states and israel would like to use to ban ki-moon to come down hard on iran first he's also aware of the fact there's two thirds of the countries that belong to the united nations are member countries of the nine aligned movement united states state department they do tend to be very aggressive in their foreign policy towards certain countries in particular although i think they have the whole goal in mind they would love to be a global vision monic power with the nonaligned movement now is one hundred percent coming together to resist this kind of action. now israel is being heavily criticized after several of its soldiers testified that children will often their main targets the release follows the publication of two damning reports one from british lawyers tha

u.s. the violence is setting off a firestorm. eye on iran. israel's prime minister said the u.s. is not doing enough to prevent iran from developing a nuclear weapon. >> those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before israel. >> and apple announcement, the tech world gets set as apple gets ready to announce it's next generation iphone. this is "cbs morning news" for wednesday, september 12, 2012. good morning, everybody. i'm terrell brown. this morning the state department is condemning actions that left two americans dead. one diplomat was killed. during an attack on the american consulate in libya. heavily armed militants opened fire and set the consulate on fire. they stormed the embassy in egypt. it was sparked by a video which ridicules islam and the prophet muhammed. the director is now in hiding. the incident set off a political firestorm in this country. we go to susan mcginnis in washington for more. >> reporter: the protesters were outraged by the trailer to a two hour film that ended up be

u.s. will do what it must to prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons so here you still have this major divide between the u.s. and iran but it was quite interesting that the iranian president gave somewhat of a reference to the ninety nine percent and occupy wall street interesting indeed now one of the significant speak to address you today. well there's many more speeches that are scheduled to take place today in the coming days but we are expecting to hear from britain's prime minister david cameron who will be addressing the general assembly it is expected that he will be speaking about syria and continuing the type of aggressive rhetoric that was heard from the u.s. leader and from the leader of france just a day ago both saying that it is time for syrian president bashar al assad to go and for the and for urging the international community to rally against the syrian opposition but of course there are other countries such as brazil russia china that feel that the only way the crisis in syria can be solved is through diplomacy and dialogue and the egyptian president mohamed morsi

and israel over iran because the u.s. has not been as forceful with this red line rhetoric as israel has been and israel is hoping that the u.s. will be more aggressive in setting in which there could be side of kind of consequences put upon iran if iran continues its nuclear program so clearly a lot of issues being discussed at the u.n. as all these world leaders are meeting in new york for the week. very i mean netanyahu estimated at timeframe of spring or summer twenty thirteen for iran to complete the next stage of its uranium enrichment and middle east commentator ramsey barritt says israeli prime minister is treading on dangerous ground he is digging a hole for himself he provided this timeline of one year where we can't possibly be go beyond that so he basically committed himself directly or indirectly that he is going to destroy iran's nuclear ambitions within one year if nothing is being done about it and you know why i feel like you are i think it's a message also to the united states that if you do not back us

serious international back drop not just unrest in the muslim world but iran's alleged nuclear weapons program and its potential threat to u.s. ally israel. iran crane's president mahmoud ahmadinejad flashed a peace sign to the u.n. today but war is on the front burner, one opening discussed launching a preemptive strike against israel if the jewish state is poised to attack. the unthinkable dilemma. what would the u.s. do if iran attacked or threatened israel or israel preemptively attacked iran. romney is using the many challenges in the region to paint the president as weak. >> look at are entire context. assassination, 20,000 people killed in syria. iran close to becoming a nuclear nation. these are far from bumps in the road. >> reporter: the president responded with a challenge of his own. >> if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, then he should say so. >> reporter: and tomorrow morning, diane, president obama will address the u.n. assembly a senior administration official said the president will reiterate his firm commitment to making sure iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. diane. >>> a

parents days after they were killed by a suicide bomber in kabul. >> today it all comes done wn t iran. u.sng in iran are having an impact. we may have different perspective on that when benjamin netanyahu addresses the u.n. >> a lot of reaction from the president's speech this morning. that's what the special report panel was talking about last night. >> liz cheney who also informally advises the romney campaign says his speech did not assure people any real action will be taken. >> my overall sense watching the speech was that it was a lot of rhetoric punk waited by moments of what could only be called delusion. he talked about the moment we are living through in the middle east now. he said this is a real period a season of progress were his words. there was no recognition at all that any pieeace and security i the world since world war ii has come from american leadership through american military. no recognition we face a threat from islamic jihad. it was a lot of what we heard him say before. i think he did have some statements about iran. he had statements about syria. but there's no

seems to be -- he is calling for a new order to replace what he calls the era of bullying by the u.s.. irane a central focus in the u.s. presidential race with mitt romney demanding a stronger response to iran's defiance. >> crippling sanctions, indicting ahmadinejad for incitation to genocide. treating the diplomats of iran. >> reporter: president obama used his u.n. speech to warn an >> let me be clear america wants to resolve this problem through diplomacy. we believe there is time to do that but that time is not unlimited. >> reporter: more on what iran's president is saying on tv this morning. reporting live alison burns. >>> time now 5:14. back here at home you know college campuses around the nation are getting bomb threats. the it last one happened yesterday at uc beckly. at 9:00 a.m. police responded to a call there was a bomb on campus. all day search turned up nothing suspicious in pat past couple of weeks including schools in ohio, texas, and tennessee have also received fake bomb threats. >>> firefighters continue to battle that fire near campo in san diego county. the flames b

iran. never before has the u.s. flexed so much muscle so close to iran. more jets. ships and nations taking part than ever before. >> the u.s. sent two aircraft carriers in the region and each has more than 40 f-18s that could reach thousands of miles into iranian airspace. to give you a sense of how you big the build buildup is each of the carriers has more firepower than the entire iranian air force. >> a blunt warning to iran don't follow through on the threat to close the strait where one fifth of all of the world's oil passes through. if israel attacks iran's nuclear sites, iran promises to fill the waters with boats packed express ives. the u.s. hopes tensions calm but israel warns that iran is only six months away from a potential nuclear weapon. the international show of force is meant to reassure israel and convince iran not to respond even if it is attacked. >> i. >> i can do a lot of damage with the airplanes onboard and the weapons in the strike group but also just be a stablizing influence. >> after exercise is over all of the troops and additional as se

says this growth we're witnessing of iran's all export it won't last long because washington's likely then further tightening sanctions what's the picture here is the u.s. really worried about iran's nuclear program or is it more trying to curb the country's economic influence in the region do you think. is it my personal view about. the nuclear issue that it's been a non-issue to see considerable time and there will be no attack by the israelis without a u.s. commission and there will be no u.s. permission without chinese consent so i'm probably in a minority thinking that. how can the u.s. . both punish iran for its nuclear program and work on keeping the region thriving economically grafter all around is one of the main driving forces there good question i guess and well you've put your finger on the problem it's mutually incompatible. i mean don't forget that last week the smart sanctions the u.s. a bit applying it to the economic sanctions cutting off the. bank from the dollar says. of course i think the five percent inflation in the stake ifans in in toronto in the last week or so. so you know hyperinflation is a serious issue but also actions ar

thanks a bunch. >>> what would military action in iran look like if the u.s. srael decided to strike? launching missiles, land occupation, and how would iran hit back? i'll ask a top international security analyst from m.i.t. flo: every driver is different. we've got great news for them all. you can try snapshot from progressive before you switch your insurance. [ horn honks ] just plug snapshot into your car, and drive like you -- to see if your good driving could save you up to 30%. so try the way to save that's as unique as you are. now you can test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. >>> good morning, atlanta. a few rays of sunshine there poking through on this first day of fall. glad you're with us watching "cnn saturday morning." >>> military action in iran. some are beating the drum of war. others warn it could have a global consequence for the united states. but israel feels a sense of urgency to do something. negotiations aimed at curbing iran's nuclear ambitions have failed. last week on cnn, israeli prime minister benjamin

and israel over iran because the u.s. has not been as forceful with this red line rhetoric as israel has been and israel is hoping that the u.s. will be more aggressive in setting in which there could be. kind of consequences put upon iran if iran continues its nuclear program so clearly a lot of issues being discussed at the u.n. as all these world leaders are meeting in new york for the week. becoming producer is also up for debate at the u.n. general assembly this while a surge of fighting in syria's second city has reportedly reached a stalemate after i was a fierce clashes on friday the three month long battle for aleppo is said to have entered its decisive phase where the latest clashes described as unprecedented amid the escalating violence of the un human rights council has extended a mandate to investigate war crimes in the country the forty seven member body also paused a resolution that condemns what it called widespread by the by syrian government forces but the attacks are made no mention of alleged rebel atr