u.s. companies u.s. networks u.s. hardware u.s. software is no longer trusted that the world believes that these are just avenues for n.s.a. spying and this is likely being a big deal and probably in the u.s. congress this is going to be more an impetus to reform the n.s.a. than anything else there's an extreme it is a train worry that we're going to lose competitiveness that foreign companies are going to come up with competing systems which are going to gain a lot of traction overseas because they're viewed as more trusted now whether that's true or not is another discussion but u.s. companies are now not trusted overseas because of n.s.a. surveillance now we spoke to our at leveson of lava bit regarding his brush with the n.s.a. and the shutdown of his business so what do you make of that case. you know it's really interesting to see the the lava bit case what happened was the f.b.i. went to lava bit and wanted a particular person's data probably edward snowden so we don't know but the way lava bit was organized that we were not able to