u.s. and pakistan have never been smooth after the fallout from the u.s. assassination of osama bin laden the state of the alliance has gone from bad to worse admiral mike mullen one of the most pro pakistan officials in washington has referred to the country as the epicenter of world terrorism but his most recent remarks have added fuel to the fire. choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy the government of pakistan and most especially the pakistani army and. jeopardizes not only the prospect of our strategic partnership but pakistan's opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional in floor in his speech to the senate mullen accused pakistan's intelligence agency isiah of colluding with the kani insurgent group the u.s. has long been aware of the fact that pakistan may be assisting insurgents but mall in statement is the first of its kind it's cost furious reactions in pakistan where authorities have denounced the claims and pointed to the country's own bosses and the war on terror thirty thousand pakistanis it is well kn

u.s. pakistan relations. and. if i can go to you considering the conversation we heard between jacob in steven before we went to the break it sounds like an a.o.l. exaggerate a little bit just for discussion's sake here is that the u.s. has to actually destroy pakistan to win in afghanistan. well i don't think i mean that superficially looks like that but no not just to not only destroy it maybe even invaded it one point ok because regime change seems to be a popular flavor of this year go ahead i don't think that you know the rebels that they should have my view at all either like i said i we did for exact even used a word for exaggeration exaggeration for a conversation think general yes go ahead are you saying is i'm going to exaggeration and misrepresented misrepresentation i should go right ahead. right i don't think that you know u.s. can despite what it wants despite the divergence i don't think that that should be on the cards that ought to be in the cards or it is on the cards it would be far too risky a

and that's up for discussion next as peter lavelle's guess examine where pakistan and the u.s. go from here cross talk coming up after a short break. following the welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle destined to be from the me again pakistan u.s. relations face a breaking point the u.s. says pakistan is hedging its bets by maintaining ties to militant groups that are trying to undermine the government in neighboring afghanistan and pakistan replies that washington's rhetoric is counterproductive and would only play into the hands of militant groups how long can this deadly embrace continue. to cross-talk u.s. pakistan relations i'm joined by stephen cohen in washington he's a senior fellow at the brookings institution also in washington we have jacob hornberger he's founder and president of the future of freedom foundation and in islamabad we cross to ayesha siddiqa she's a pakistani political commentator and author of the book military incorporated inside pakistan's military economy all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want hear

u.s. government that's doing the occupying the tables are turned but the economy and those people in pakistan and afghanistan that are trying to rid this country of foreign occupation are operating entirely consistently it's a u.s. empire that saying hey now that we're in the occupiers instead of the suv union we want you to start killing your own people we want you to start destabilizing things it's the hypocrisy right here in washington what do you think about that stephen because i read the pakistani government's really put into type position here because it's only people being killed by american drones as america goes over the border of pakistan on a daily basis going ahead. in the long run i am sure is correct because what could happen it's one of several possible futures is that because american and pakistani interests are so different you know afghanistan and with regard to support for these terrorist groups we could see a move of american policy from alliance with pakistan which is a nominal lie and it's an alliance in which both sides lie to each other it's like a very bad marriage w

u.s. and pakistan. margaret warner has our report. >> it is no secret, that our relationship of late has not been an easy one. >> reporter: diplomatic understatement from america's top diplomat, friday in islamabad. the secretary of state was in pakistan's capital to press one of america's most vital and mercurial allies in the fight against militants who are still wreaking havoc in afghanistan, as the u.s. begins drawing down its forces there. washington is fuming over pakistan providing safe haven and otherwise aiding extremists, like the haqqani militant network and the afghan taliban. on her way, mrs. clinton stopped thursday in kabul and, with afghan president hamid karzai by her side, warned that pakistan could not let the current situation continue without paying a price. >> the terrorists operating outside of pakistan pose a threat to the pakistanis as well as to afghans and others. and we will have ideas to share with the pakistanis. they can either be helping or hindering. >> reporter: she bro

u.s. and pakistan relationship. because american and pakistani interests are so different you know afghanistan and with regard to support for these terrorist groups we could see the move of american policy from alliance with pakistan which is a normal alliance or it's annoyance of which both sides lie to each other it's like a very bad marriage where both sides are unfaithful to the other two containment we could see america moving towards a continuing continue but i don't think that's going to happen i think it's most doctors don't need to understand they need a miracle a very good relationship with we culturally politically there's no imperial ambitions there are we trying to get out we're trying to punish the people who attacked the united states we've done some most of that and there's a lot of arguing for getting out very quickly certainly obama and much of the right ministry you know the republicans want to get out of office or very quickly jake if you want to jump in there. steven the government's been killin

u.s. pakistan fragile relationship. because america the clock is the only interest there so if you're for it you know afghanistan and with regard to support for these terrorist groups we could see the move of american policy for alliance with pakistan which is a nominal and somewhat it's a which both sides lie to each other it's like a very bad marriage where both sides were unfaithful to the other two containment we could see america moving towards a containment. but i don't think that's going to happen i think it's most pakistanis understand they need a relationship they're going to be culturally politically there's no derealization there we're trying to get out we're trying to punish the people who took the united states we don't see most of that and there's a lot of arguing for getting out very quickly so we obama that much of the right. of the republicans want to get out of iraq that is a very quickly jake if you want to jump in there to. stephen the government's been killing people for more than ten years how many

u.s. pakistan relations. all right it's time for showing talents night's program last time we told you about the souring relationship between the u.s. and pakistan but with the two countries ever really go to war it's going to produce which reason to send to find out what you have to say. we have all heard it before the question of pakistan's commitment to aiding the u.s. in its war on terror and the stories of pakistan has been playing both sides well mike mullen chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff had stirred the pot once again claiming pakistan supported militant groups in attacks against americans and afghanistan but this past friday the u.s. appeared to back away from the public accusations saying it is not clear on the exact relationship between the i.s.i. and the commies but these same questions are being raised over and over again and in an increasingly public setting so would the u.s. want to extend the war into pakistan so on to things that the u.s. has a lot to lose militarily and economicall

pakistan or putting boots on the ground. there were remarks in an interview today. >> you think the u.s. should consider bombing pakistan? >> the u.s. has already bombed pakistan. >> they don't like it, though, the pakistanis. they think it's a violation of our natural sovereignty. >> a bomb is a bomb. they are bombing it. so they are agreeing with me that bombing is part of the solution. >> do you want them to go further? >> absolutely. >> boots on the ground in pakistan? >> why not? if they go in -- to a village to arrest an expendable taliban fighter, they should be fair, and there must be justice. they should do the same thing in pakistan, or if they don't attack pakistan militarily, they should stop economic assistance. they should isolate the pakistan army so they can feel the heat and stop this double game. >> former afghan intelligence chief there. so how should the u.s. proceed when it comes to relations with pakistan? that's one of the major questions i addressed with the u.s. ambassador to afghanistan from 2003 to 2005. i spoke to him from par is and asked him where the major focus should be 10 years after the

u.s. missile strike happened in northwest pakistan and across the border in afghanistan. a u.s. and civilian-run base was attacked, three people died including two attackers. >> a great day for the dow. up almost 340 points at the closing bell. i haven't heard that in awhile. on capitol hill, lawmakers are playing the blame game overrions. the gop has passed plenty of measures that the senate is sitting on and fox news correspondent jennifer davis has more. >> the bill is passed. >> reporter: a rare display of the bipartisanship in the u.s. house as the republican-led body passes a small element of the president's jobs bill. the repeel of a 3% withhe tax on government contractors. gop lawmakers have passed a lot of jobs measures and 15 in all getting stuck in the democratic- leddity? senate. >> we call on the senate, the president and harry reid. don't forget the 15. >> reporter: during his campaign style jobs tourist west earlier this week, the president placed blame on the gop and arguing they're blocking his job creation plan and focussing on ideas that won't work. >> and the

tonight she's in pakistan to read the government the riot act over attacks on american forces in the region. the u.s. believes pakistan is connected to the haqqani terror network and whit johnson sat down with the secretary in kabul before she left for pakistan today. >> something has changed. the haqqani network is now targeting americans. they attacked this embassy that we're sitting in today. that changes our calculation and the pakistanis need to understand that. >> reporter: this is the attack she means-- a 20-hour assault on the u.s. embassy and nato headquarters last month. that was sharp turn for the worse in u.s./pakistan relations. >> this is a turning point for them, too, to make some serious choices. >> reporter: in the interview, the secretary went farther than the administration has gone before. not just linking pakistan's intelligence agency, the i.s.i., to haqqani terrorists, but the pakistani army, too, the most respected institution in the country. >> there are connections between the military and i.s.i. and the a ha canny network. those connections may not have been as much of a c

pakistan. his former head of intelligence said that the u.s. should consider bombing pakistan or putting boots on the ground. he made the remarks in an interview. >> you are saying that the u.s. should consider bombing pakistan. >> they have already bombed pakistan. >> they don't like it, and pakistan. >> a bomb is a bomb, whether it comes from unmanned or manned aircraft. they are agreeing that the bombing as part of the solution. >> do you think they should go further? >> absolutely. if they are going to my soil, if they go to a village to arrest unexpendable taliban fighters, they should be fair and they should do the same thing in pakistan. if they did not attack pakistan militarily, they should stop economic assistance. they should isolate the army. they can feel the heat and play this double game. >> the former afghan intelligence chief there. how should the u.s. proceed when it comes to relationships with pakistan? that is one of the major questions i posed to the former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan. i spoke to him from paris and asked

in pakistan a dozen al qaeda linked suspects have been arrested after afghanistan demanded the u.s. put more pressure on islamabad to fight terrorism but it's not enough to eliminate thoughts in america that pakistan's government is sheltering terrorists some in washington are even ready to support action against islamabad as can reports. the drums of war beating loud and clear washington calls pakistan a safe haven for terrorists we cannot hear the news coming across the border attacking our forces attacking afghanistan afghanistan east and then disappearing back into a safe haven. economy network for one acts as a veritable arm of pakistan's internal services intelligence agency pakistan is furious over the accusations calling them unsubstantiated and saying that washington came very close to losing a major ally in its war on terror if you talk about links i'm quite sure c.e.o. says things that many terrorist organizations around the world which by which we mean intelligence things over the last ten years pakistan has repeatedly compromised its own sovereignty to help the americans

u.s. and pakistan is unlikely. both countries have recently mended fences over how the u.s. secretly entered pakistan to kill osama bin laden. >>> more than one year after that massive oil leak, it is back to business for bp. the company plans to drill new oil wells in the gulf. >>> plus, big news in decision 2012, how another primary shuffle has republicans changing their calendars. >>> and the black widow is at it again. how she fared at a oneton eating contest. >> well, you know, we waited all day for the sun to finally come out, just in time for the sun to set. i think you'll have a little more sunshine on y >>> yeah,ition's one of the true signs of fall here in the d.c. area. howard university homecoming. more than 100,000 alumni and friends are in town this weekend to take part in all the festivities. today's events included the homecoming parade and football game. there have been events for alumni all weekend long. they continue tonight and through most of the day tomorrow. >>> bp is one step closer to drilling again in the gulf of mexico. the bureau of safety and envi

president, as far as pakistan/u.s. ations are concerned, the survey in pakistan shows that number one enemy of pakistan according to pakistanis is not india, but united states after getting all the billions of dollars. what can you make, mr. president, out of these things? and also one more thing, osama bin laden was found in your backyard, and you were the ruler that time. when you knew or not, sir. >> very good. thank you very much. [laughter] firstly, karzai's statement, first of all, let me thank him for the first time giving a pro-pakistan statement. but, however, the statement that he will support pakistan against the united states is most preposterous i would say. i find this idea itself very preposterous. how can they, i mean, is he utilizing some kind of war between the united states and pakistan? it's ridiculous and preposterous. so, therefore, i wouldn't like to even answer this. i find this a very, very strang idea. who has propounded this idea and, god forbid, this can never happen. so why comment? and than

pakistan. taking america's accusations that they support terrorists as a way to shift the blame for the failure of u.s. policies on pakistan but the blame game may blow up into full scale aggression if the experts believe that we need to elevate our response they will have a lot of bipartisan support on capitol hill u.s. lawmakers have already signaled that if there is the will for tough action against pakistan they'll support it and when washington says the words safe haven for terrorists that's what you expect tough action and if it does happen pakistan could be the new afghanistan but with china as a friend and nuclear bombs at hand sounds like a deadly combination for the united states i'm kind of reporting from washington our team. in about two hours our teams cross talk to bates what's ahead for u.s. pakistani relations. american and pakistani interests are so different you know afghanistan and with regard to support for these terrorist groups we could see the move of american policy from alliance with pakistan which is a nominal lie and it's an alliance of which both sides lie to each other it'

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u.s. embassy was blamed on afghanistan -- on pakistan as the u.s. has taken a harder line. this raises further on a couple questions from the u.s. and u.k. government who both have large budgets for pakistan and counted as an ally. >> you are watching "bbc world news america," still to come on the program -- getting ready to hit the 7 billion mark. as the world's population reaches this milestone, we will assess the challenges ahead. after declaring a 5 day national holiday, thailand's premise for has warned that parts of bangkok could be flooded for months. -- prime minister has warned that parts of bangkok could be flooded for months. residents have been told to evacuate. >> in the old order of bangkok, a new recording from the back of a truck, the water is coming. the message received, time to batten down the hatches and move the line up and out of the way. we waded through the markets heading in the director of the river and a few traders are trying to keep going. the water is rising rapidly. >> we have done all we can. we cannot take these, because our house is flooded

u.s. embassy was blamed on afghanistan -- on pakistan as the u.s. has taken a harder line. this raises further on a couple questions from the u.s. and u.k. government who both have large budgets for pakistan and counted as an ally. >> you are watching "bbc world news america," still to come on the program -- getting ready to hit the 7 billion mark. as the world's population reaches this milestone, we will assess the challenges ahead. after declaring a 5 day national holiday, thailand's premise for has warned that parts of bangkok could be flooded for months. -- prime minister has warned that parts of bangkok could be flooded for months. residents have been told to evacuate. >> in the old order of bangkok, a new recording from the back of a truck, the water is coming. the message received, time to batten down the hatches and move the line up and out of the way. we waded through the markets heading in the director of the river and a few traders are trying to keep going. the water is rising rapidly. >> we have done all we can. we cannot take these, because our house is flooded

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hideki yui in slislamabad has details. >> translator: pakistan will not yield to u.s. pressure. our national interests must be respected. >> reporter: the rare conference was held in islamabad on thursday. denouncing that pakistan considers recent developments with the united states as a national emergency. the security forces are deteriorating relations with the united states were discussed. the conference unanimously adopted a statement that denies a u.s. allegation that pakistan is supporting insurgents. calling it groundless. it also said there has to be a new direction and policy with the focus on peace and reskillation. the u.s. government has openly criticized pakistan and its intelligence agency for providing support for the haqqani network insurgent group. pakistanis latest move appears to be aimed at showing solidarity on the matter. but relations may become even more strained as the u.s. becomes increasingly frustrated with pakistan's reluctance to undertake military operations against insurgents. hideki yui, nhk world, islamabad. >>> meanwhile, the u.s. government has

u.s. pakistan or relationships regarding their situation in afghanistan in fact it turned out yet another groundhog day of miscommunication mutual accusations and denials small wonder that now the russian doing is exploring all possible venue's and options how to deal with a stalemate both in afghanistan and pakistan the latest safety belt for the u.s. administration was offered by michael o'hanlon and paul wolfowitz there join proposition it's called plan afghanistan alluding to plan colombia that was authorized and sponsored by u.s. administration dating back ten years ago plan colombia essentially means shifting did gear in the reverse back to their runs through idea of the light footprint tried in afghanistan well there is nothing wrong with this idea of this light footprint the only question is why did it take more than ten years however the most striking feature and now this brand new plan afghanistan is the fact that both authors have painstakingly failed to mention even once the most successful part of american operation in latin america there is aerial eradication of the drug fie

u.s.-pakistan relations. the row house exposed divisions between these two supposed allies. divisions that could hamper the search for peace in afghanistan. >> final legal arguments have been heard in the appeal trial of amanda knox. the 24-year-old under former boyfriend are appealing against the verdict, which saw each of them jailed for more than 20 years. >> the world's media has had ascended on the courtroom. the roads are absolutely lifted with satellite trucks and crews from all over the world. the closing arguments have now finished. although lawyers for the defense and prosecution have had their say and they have tried to make lasting impressions on the judges and jury. they went over a lot of the evidence, much of it forensic. that is crucial to this appeal because it is disputed by the defense team. there was also criticism by the prosecution about comment made by the defense that amanda knox had been crucified by the media. the prosecution said that was a bold statement. the defense said, there is a private jet on standby for her man debt -- amanda and her family

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pakistan should do more to punish militants involved in the 2008 mumbai attacks, according to u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton, speaking to a congressional panel today. she stopped short of making it a condition of ties with pakistan, but said the relationship is difficult. >> i will be the first to admit that working with afghan and pakistani partners is not always easy, but these relationships are advancing america's national security interest. walking away from them would undermine those interests. >> what you pakistani is -- what do pakistanis make of this? we are told that the relationship has never been worse. >> we are at the robust arab. -- lowest ebb. it is unfortunate there is a total breakdown of confidence between the u.s. and pakistan. it is surprising. there is work between the intelligence agencies. >> something seems to have happened in the past few months, a sudden deterioration. the language about the haqqani network being a veritable arm of pakistan, hillary clinton demanding the dismantling of paula bun safe havens. -- how the bond -- tell them safe havens