a glimpse of michael d higgins, the irish president, waiting to receive pope francis at aras an uachtarainesidence at phoenix park in dublin in the next few moments. we will keep an eye on that. but joining me here at dublin castle is gina menzies, a theologian and lecturer in bioethics at the royal couege lecturer in bioethics at the royal college of surgeons and a member of we are church ireland, a group which is working to reform the catholic church. as far as you are concerned, what is the primary thing that you wa nt to what is the primary thing that you want to hear in pope francis‘ visit this weekend? following the pennsylvania report, which i had to read and it should come with a health warning, it is horrific and it was done by outside experts, which makes it very valid and it is done on the basis of significant evidence, what all of us in the catholic church would like to see is that the pope would make a significant statement not just saying sorry, because we have heard sorry from a number of popes and a number of people in the institution. we now want a pope who says, i am goin

these are the aerial shots of aras an uachtarain, the irish president'sresidence. but the irish president'sresidence. but the ireland that pope francis is visiting is so different from the one that popejohn paul ii visited in 1979. there have been so many changes, including most recently, the referendum in which people here voted by two thirds to a third approximately to allow abortion. we have had the referendum allowing gay marriage, ireland the first country to allow that by public vote. and then running through all of that, what the former irish president, mary mcaleese has called the dark side irish catholicism, the issue of abuse, the issue of the mistreatment of unmarried women and their babies

these are the aerial shots of aras an uachtarain, the irish president'sresidence.resident'sresidence. but the ireland that pope francis is visiting is so different from the one that popejohn paul ii visited in 1979. there have been so many changes, including most recently, the referendum in which people here voted by two thirds to a third approximately to allow abortion. we have had the referendum allowing gay marriage, ireland the first country to allow that by public vote. and then running through all of that, what the former irish president, mary mcaleese has called the dark side irish catholicism, the issue of abuse, the issue of the mistreatment of unmarried women and their babies in homes across ireland. you can see pope francis emerging with michael higgins and his wife sabina. he will be leaving the president'sofficial residence in the next few moments and heading to where i is to you from dublin castle, where he will be meeting the irish minister, leo varadkar, brought up catholic but no longer a practising catholic, a gay prime minister and in many ways t