photographer, a master, valera carpenters was photographing this, this is what i was photographing from uala surikovotogether with... the most bomb for me, you are the first person, i know, the absolute first discoverer of the eighties, i don’t know, this is due to the fact that lyubimov left taganka, yes , you were the first to say, you know, that i will work for myself, this moment is an unheard-of courage, because then we are all somehow at the philharmonic, how can you do it for yourself, you went to stage it. i would not romanticize this period, the fact is that yuri petrovich lyubimov did not leave the theater, he left his homeland, then he was deprived of citizenship, it’s all known to everyone, the leadership was changed. certificate of the all-russian theater society, and somehow i was like that, i was such a cowboy that no one really needed , you know, an absolutely free artist, well , somehow everything worked out, there were some works on television, some works in cinema, but if you’ve already started talking about cinema, then probably the beginning of my film biography is like the prese