when you think of drones or uavs, there are two types that quickly come to mind. the first are predators and reapers which rain misery down on america's enemy. the other drone is the backyard hobbyist, the quadry copters and hexicopters. the real sweet spot will be the middle ground between the two, the ones used by farmers or police agencies or marine scientists if the government allows it. jonathan downey is an m.i.t. grad and former boeing engineer who's building the brains and the operating system of uavs. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> i should also point out -- had no idea when we were talking about when you were going to be on the show that alexis is one of your investors. >> yeah. >> and you guys tend to support each other with that. >> yeah, there's a huge community around it. it's a big part of the attraction to being part of this. >> let me tell you my theory here. and that is you're not building the air frame. you're not training the pilots. you aring do the brains of the uav itself, both the operating system and the chips that's

millions of dollars have been spent on uav's for local police departments. it is monday, september 30. 5:00 p.m. in washington, d.c. u.n. weapons inspectors are due to arrive in damascus tomorrow, to begin taking inventory of the syrian weapons arsenal, the first step in ridding the company of dutch country of its stockpile, the result of a unanimous un security council agreement after a point of contention between the u.s. and russia was stripped from the resolution. the requirement of punitive action against the syrian government if it did not comply with disarmament. syrian president bashar al-assad has vowed to fully cooperate with the mission, a mission that aims to destroy the full chemical arsenalfor the latest,. the syrian foreign minister address the u.n. general assembly this morning. did anything notable come from this speech? >> the syrian delegation is breathing out a sigh of relief in new york city, following the late-night friday vote on the united nation security resolution, which calls for no use of force and removing chemical weapons from s

border patrol and customs loaned these uav's to other agencies, were these other agencies not allowedo use them? what would be the purpose of not disclosing the agency's uses? >> that's a great question. i'm not sure why they would not want to expose it besides having the public find out and be worried about it. none of these agencies have privacy policies. we don't know how long they keep the footage? do they hand it on to other agencies? are they looking for other things besides wanted criminals which they have a probable cause warrant for? these are all questions that the american people deserve answers for before they start using these drones regularly. >> pierre i want you to jump in here and react to what is being said, and then also, do you think lines need to be drawn a little more distinctly. >> sure, i think first off, just because someone doesn't release information to me, doesn't necessarily mean they are trying to hide it. so i applaud treasure and his organization for seeking transparency. i have no issues with that. where we draw the line is going to boil down to number

. >> the university of nebraska launched the world's first uav lab for young journalists. >> we are quiteliterally creating this tool for journalists to use. there are no guidelines and no suggestions on how you should use this and we are just making everything up. and i want to keep doing that. the picture on the test modeled may look a little wobbly. but with refinement it could look like this. that means no place is out of reach. >> it's still a work in progress but a drone is in use to cover cricket. could paparazzi and unmanned car chases next? it's so far ahead of the law there are many unanswered questions. >> if that thing flies over my house i will get my shotgun out and shoot it down. it's not clear if they can do that. when you think about it we are writing the rule book. >> commercial drones are illegal in the u.s. but aviation authorities are crafting laws that could have them filling the skies by 2013. >> well that school has caught the attention of the government who has told them to stop flying drones. they must go through the same operation as police and border patrol age

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>> so i've been critical of uav unmanned aerial vehicle strikes, known as drone strikes.he reason is president obama - bush's policy can be carrick at tured as desiring democracy at the barrel of the gun. president obama ditched the democracy, but kept the gun. he defined the problem as al qaeda. he felt if he decap tated the leadership by surgical strikes and drone strikes he'd deal with the problem. we are dealing with a phenomenon, inurgency, ideology. the phrase they used in the barack obama administration is al-qaeda-inspired terrorism. al qaeda is the end product of decades of extremism within the middle east. >> you write in your book and say, "you can't kill an idea, ideas are bulletproof." >> what is it that the united states can do and other moderate muslims do, can there be more foundation. >> you hit the nail on the head. if we look at the combination of what has happened, al qaeda achieved more since the death of osama bin laden than they did during his lifetime. they controlled territory in north mallie, yemen. they physical controlled territory. the surgica

>> with a $50,000 grant the university of nebraska launch the word's first uav lab for young journalistswe are creating this new tool for journalists to to use. there are no guidelines and there are no suggests on how you should use this. you are just making everything up and i want to keep doing that. >> the picture on the test model may look a little wobbly but with refinements it can look like this. eventually drone journalism could mean no place is out of reach. they are still a work in progress but a drone is in use in australia to cover cricket. could airborne paparazzi and unmanned car chase be next? it's so far ahead of the law it's left many questions unanswered. >> that thing flies over my house i will get my shotgun out and i will shoot it down. as silly as it sounds, it's not clear whether or not they could do that. and when we think about that we are writing the rule book. >> for now commercial drones are illegal in the u.s. but aviation authorities are crafting new laws that could have drones like this filling the skies by 2015. >>> two hundred years ago one of the bloodies

>> reporter: with a $50,000 grant from the knight foundat n foundation, they launched the first uav lab for young journalists. >> we are quite literally creating this new tool for journalists to use, because there is no -- there are no guidelines. there are no suggestions on how you should use this, what you could use it for. we're making everything up, and i want to keep doing that. >> the picture on your test model may look wobbly, but with refinements it could look like that. it could mean no place is out of reach. they're still in a work in progress, but a drone is also in use in australia to cover cricket. could unmanned paparazzi anext? it's so ahead of the law, it left many chances unanswered. >> somebody says if that flies over my house, i'm getting out my shotgun and shoot it down. as silly as it sounds, it's not clear whether or not they could do that. we're kind of writing the rule book. >> commercial drones are still illegal in the u.s. but aviation authorities are crafting new laws filling skiet by 2014. al jazeera, lincoln nebraska. >>> here are ross in sports. the patriot

with a $50,000 grant from the knight foundation, the university of nebraska launched the world's first uav lab for young journalists. >> we are quite literally creating this new tool for journals because there is no -- there are no guidelines, there are no suggestions on how you should use this, what you can use it for. we're just making everything up, and i want to keep doing that. >> the fixture on this test model right look a little wobbly, but with refinement it will look like that. eventually it could mean almost no place is out of reach. they're still a work in progress, but a drone is already in use in australia to cover cricket. could airborne paparazzi and unmanned car chase coverage be next? the technology is so far ahead of the law it left many questions unanswered. >> someone said if that flies over my house, i'm getting my shotgun out and i'm shooting it down. as silly as it sounds, it's not clear whether or not they can do that. when we think about it, we're kind of writing the rule book. >> for now commercial drones are illegal in the u.s., but aviation authorities are craft

uavs had to figure out which way you want to be operating in.ost: as a follow to the caller 's point, this is a tweet -- we need both cuts and the taxes but republicans want to cut in the wrong places. gary from florida, independent line for john olert, joining us from new york from fitch ratings. good morning, gary. caller: good morning. they say the debt ceiling is suspended. does that mean there is no debt ceiling? does that mean they can spend have whatever they want? how high can they go? have a already exceeded the previous debt limit with their spending? it,an, if they suspended then there is not, right? guest: that would be our interpretation as well. i don't think there is momentum to greatly inflate that number, but you are right -- that is how we would have interpreted the legislation as well. next, plainview, new york, recalled to my. caller: -- republican line. caller: good morning. at one point does it limited ted debt,unlimi expanding the debt, become a danger to our economy? or less.owing at 2% the real unemployment rate is not 7