senior jessica brown who abandoned plans to be a pilot to concentrate on unmanned aerial vehicles or uavs. >> if i could do anything with uavs, i would love to do it whether the actual pilot or sensor operating working the cameras and stuff like that. >> reporter: stuff no longer part of science fiction but an industry with strong growth potential in the real world. in daytona beach, florida, i'm mary thompson for "nightly business report." >>> the president of the atlanta federal reserve bank said the u.s. economy is strong and that growth is healthy enough to justify an initial interest rate hike later this year. dennis lockhart also expects the economy to grow 3% in 2015 and 2016. >>> sue, we may get more insight into the federal reserve's thinking when chair janet yellin testifies in front of the banking committee on the 24th. monetary policy and appear the next day in front of the house financial services committee. it will be her first appearance before the senate banking committee since the republicans took control earlier this year. >>> now back to the markets. the dow jones indus

joining us now is the executive director of the small uav coalition, a lobbying group working for the of amazon, google x, and also a senior policy advisor. what is in these rules that is good and what is that? >> the fact we have rules is in of itself great. it gives us a platform upon which to build. i would say there are problems to the extent that the rules will prohibit operations commercial operations of drones when there are personnel on the ground not associated with the project, which essentially will shift all commercial usage. it is a real problem. there are also some suggestions that there will not be an ability to operate outside the linux eight, which means it has to be a visual i hear the actual person has to be able to see -- so the very notion of the amazon drone that brin -- that brings a box and drops at your front door and hopefully does not clip your poodle, that is out with this proposal. >> yes. exactly. what most people believe and i think is true is that automation is going to be the future of the industry for delivery for precision agriculture for pipeline in

and the military, but as they become cheaper and more accessible and certainly smaller, everyone from uavnthusests to farmers and animal protection advocates will be using them. but the new era is leading a lot of states to ask how these private drones should be regulated and whether it's even possible. waj some interesting conversation really surrounding the ethics of drones. >> yeah, you just mentioned the deadline for integration of drones, we asked our community is the united states ready for drones? 85% said not ready. and: and we'll be discussing some of those uses tonight. loyal streamers as you know you are the third host of the show. all of your online contributions drive this discussion. engage us throughout the show and we'll try to get your tweet on the air. >> joining us to widen the conversation is a member of the truman national security project and a former army intelligence captain and drone pilot. joining us by skype is the dean of college of aviation services at utah valley university. he is working to help his state become a drone testing site. and an activist with the

>> to create the world's leading uav platform.he reason is to put it in the hands of regular people. >> what do you make? >> drones, autopilots. what makes software. by and large, we make a platform. it's open source, anyone can use it. hundreds of thousands do. for brain you can put in a vehicle. >> what are your drones capable of? >> that is the exciting part. the drones started by being able to fly on their own. the big driver is putting go pros in the air, getting video. the ability of drones to take this camera and pull back, to see not just you, but to sweep around, capture your life the way hollywood directors do without any skills, for me, that is what drones can do with video. in the commercial domain, to be able to map the world and digitize surroundings. we can do 2-d maps. we can do 3-d modeling. we can scan any building anywhere. turn it into a 3-d model. >> what industries will drones revolutionize? >> today, it is a consumer revolution, and it is starting to become a commercial revolution as well. one industry is ag

and the smaller uav's that could opoperatfor several months at a time, like c gliders you have people use today. >> and there are others the office of naval resesearch is working on. >> one way to link than endurance is to allow them to recharge and receive information from a network underwater, or from a portable recharging station you get in pla closer to the a area they are going to operate. >> this is a touchy subject. whenever you raisenmannened underwater vehicles, there is a debate whether you need to work nuclear attack subrines, which is something thehe community does not necessarily want to deal with. about 20 seconds, howoes that aument and case need to beade, that the man submarine is still important? >> it is important to do the missions a u cannot do. there are times you need a person in the loop to conduct a strike mission or an attack on a ship t that is a very high value target. there are times we need to do anti-submarine warfare, where you need the speed and endurnce a man submarine wl provide. you need to thinkbout mass submarines as a host platform. we need more s

. >> the official name is uav. that stands for unmanned aerial vehicle. but unless you sleep with your science textbook, you probably know it by a simpler name -- drone. it's the hottest development in flying. you might say that the age of the drone is taking off. joining me from texas a&m university corpus christi, are two experts on drones -- dr. luis cifuentes and senior cody torno. welcome. >> hi. hello. >> so, cody, so that we're all on the same page, what's so special about drones? >> the interesting part about it is the fact that it is unmanned. so, we don't have a pilot actually inside a cockpit flying the vehicle. it's done in an exterior location, which is a safer option. >> so, how's it controlled? >> it's controlled via satellite usually or some type of external communication link, kind of like a long-distance r.c. plane except it also can be used autonomously, which means without any kind of user input. >> doctor, the military has been using drones for a while now to take out terrorists. how else can drones be used? >> well, there are a treme

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uavs or drones as they call them. that these drone exercises will be going on because you can't fly a drone in the nation's capital. it's against the law. it's a problem in the nation's capital and the french capital and officials are trying to grapple with how to deal with this new technology. >> jim acosta reporting live. thanks so much. >>> a california man filed a lawsuit against purina alleging the company's beneful dog food has caused deaths to dogs. purina is fighting back with a statement that reads. "we believe the lawsuit is baseless and we intend to vigorously defend ourselves and our brand. similar baseless allegations have been made and both were dismissed by the courts. online postings contain false and unsupported and misleading allegations that cause concern for our beneful customers. consumers can continue to feed beneful with total confidence. i don't think purina is going to convince pet owners to just freely feed their pets beneful food. >> good morning, carol. it's an explosive complaint. as i loo

as well as state and federal government to actually visualize, demonstrate the cyberattacks on this uav space as well as any innovative defenses. in the manufacturing community we are making strides. our manufacturing systems are now internet connected. the manufacturing systems did not take that into account. there's a way that we can attacked -- get attacked in ways we did not anticipate. once we have that roadmap, another important aspect of the strategic framework would be to increase the cyber operations center. we don't just have these in the military, but we have them at many levels. what is important as we enhance the cyber operations centers and the response teams that operate there is we target and focus on the systems implementing those critical services, which takes us back to that strategic plan. we have seen monitoring going off of many systems. in virginia, we have a joint cyber security operations center. we are going to bring together the analysts from the various systems so they can have shared awareness. we are also going to introduce center. collaboration opportuniti

as well as state and federal government to actually visualize, demonstrate the cyberattacks on this uav space as well as any innovative defenses. in the manufacturing community, we are making strides. our manufacturing systems are now internet connected. the manufacturing systems developers to not take that into account. there's a way that we can attack, get effects for these cyber physical systems we did not anticipate. by working together and increasing the awareness, it helps us provide better defense. once we have that roadmap another important aspect of the strategic framework would be to increase the cyber operations center. we don't just have these in the military, but we have them at many levels. what is important as we enhance the cyber operations centers and the response teams that operate there is we target and focus on the systems implementing those critical services, which takes us back to that strategic plan. we have seen monitoring going off of many systems. in virginia, we have a joint cyber security operations center. we are going to bring together the analysts from the

as well as state and federal government to actually visualize, demonstrate the cyberattacks on this uav space as well as any innovative defenses. in the manufacturing community we are making strides. our manufacturing systems are now internet connected. the manufacturing systems did not take that into account. there's a way that we can attacked -- get attacked in ways we did not anticipate. once we have that roadmap, another important aspect of the strategic framework would be to increase the cyber operations center. we don't just have these in the military, but we have them at many levels. what is important as we enhance the cyber operations centers and the response teams that operate there is we target and focus on the systems implementing those critical services, which takes us back to that strategic plan. we have seen monitoring going off of many systems. in virginia, we have a joint cyber security operations center. we are going to bring together the analysts from the various systems so they can have shared awareness. we are also going to introduce center. collaboration opportuniti

them sufficient defensive equipment, antitank weapons, share more intelligence, maybe even use some uav's, which the russians are using in ukraine to help make it more costly for the russians? would that tempt them to roll over ukraine? it might. right now they are rolling over them and the ukrainians are fighting with sticks and stones against a heavily armored russian military. i think you could make it more costly for them and say that more russians are going to be placed at risk, understanding that ukraine, we could never train them fast enough or arm their massive fish only to defeat the russians there. we have to find a way out of this. we don't want to turn this into another cold war. president putin is angry what has happened to the soviet empire. he made that clear at a security conference in munich in 2007, i believe. i was there at the time, and there was a room full of people who had open arms for president putin, the first time in the history of the munich security conference that the russian president had been invited or excepted. the europeans were ready to embrace him. he

share more intelligence, maybe even use uav's, which the russians are using in ukraine to help make it more costly for the russians? with that tempt them to roll over ukraine? it might. but right now, they are rolling over them, and the ukrainians are fighting sticks and stones against heavily armored russian military. i think you could make it more costly for them and say that more russians will be placed at risk. understanding that the ukraine we can never train them fast enough or on them sufficiently to defeat the russians there. i would not be the goal. but we should set it up as saying to the russians -- and we have to find a way out of this. we do not want to turn this into another cold war. president putin is angry with what has happened to the soviet empire. he made that clear at a security conference in munich in 2007, i believe. i was there at the time. there was a room full of people who had open arms for president clinton. for the first time -- president putin. first time he had been invited works at the. -- or accepted. he came in and gave what i would call a cold message

we should provide -- there's -- intelligence support in the form of uav's.ost: can you give us a sense of what the army now has in trying to fight these rebels? guest: ukraine does have substantial armor. it does have some missiles. it does have more light weapons than it needs. but it can use the specific things that i referred to. host: let's go to washington, d.c. good morning. caller: good morning. host: if you can turn the volume down on your set. caller: i have more of a statement. i've learned by experience first that the first casualty of war is the truth. and why is it that if russia has -- been in ukraine there has not been one captured or anything like that? we went to ukraine because they overthrew a dualy elected government. and that is what the genesis of the problem. but why is no soviet citizen has been captured and all the soldiers as far as i've been able to determine? guest: you spend too much time listening to russian tv which is a prop ganden outlet. in fact there's massive evidence of russian soldiers fighting in ukraine. there's massiv

military i would put 24/7 air cover to include uavs like reapers over that airfield and i would constantlydo not have those assets. we have them available but we are not using them. we really do not have an air campaign. we have air stiekrikes and it doesn't even equal to pin pricks. >> what's the end goals here? do we want it to be administered by one government out of baghdad or break into two separate countries? what are we trying to achieve? >> boy that is the $64 question. what i would like it to achieve is if you have a government that is friendly to the kurds and sunnis and brings them together. a unity government. whether we're going to be able to get it defacto right now iraq belongs to iran. it became a proxy once we moved our forces out our influence is waning. i would like to bring it back into that world that we knew the original iraq that we took down. there is a very valid question that you asked, can we do that? that remains to be seen. i don't know if we can do that. >> we're playing whack a mole with isis right now. if you ask john kerry we're winning. by what metric i'm