and it's also labor day, 2012, the president will be in toledo, ohio, for a uaw picnic. live coverage today on c-span at 12:30 p.m. eastern time of that campaign rally. we, the washington examiner yesterday had this article. obama to try to make case for sticking with him. don't expect president obama to try to reinvent himself this week at the democratic national convention. instead, he and a slew of his defenders will seek to convince voters to stick with the president they know, rather than gamble on someone they don't. a challenging task, tpeufpb that most americans say the country is heading in the wrong direction. that's from the washington examiner this morning, and that's what we're asking you this morning. president obama, 2008 voters, are you sticking with him? yes or no? two hundred two is the area code, you say yes you're sticking with him here in 2012, 737-ooo16789, there's a number for you to dial, 202-737-ooo2 if you say no, you're changing your mind. you can also make a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/c-span or send in a tweet and there's a cou

years later the uaw comes but then growth slope and stop. that hurt workers.nionized toyota. toyota created 15,000 jobs not in japan, in america. over the same period gm lost 400 thousand jobs. how is that good for work. workers should have the right to unionize but they should realize the down side. it is not just the cost it's the opportunities lost in union shops. union rules limit the ability to change to adapt a

years later the uaw comes but then growth slope and stop. that hurt workers.nionized toyota. toyota created 15,000 jobs not in japan, in america. over the same period gm lost 400 thousand jobs. how is that good for work. workers should have the right to unionize but they should realize the down side. it is not just the cost it's the opportunities lost in union shops. union rules limit the ability to change to adapt and grow. it is that freedom free enlt prize that

>> there is a remarkable scene in your film about the uaw.isteners who could not see the clip we just showed, it is very interesting there thing was "we build it" that theme that has been taken up by mitt romney in republican party. i want to play a clip that has to do with the union meeting, but i was wondering if you could set it up for us, this uaw meeting and when it took place squar? what happened about two years ago with the union rep explaining to workers at a particular plant, the owners are threatening to move to mexico and an order to keep their jobs, they would have to take massive pay cuts. the guys are reeling from this information, are hurt, confused, and feel like they have an opportunity to fight back. >> let's go to the clip. >> i have been pulling my hair out about this, going back and forth with the company on this. i did a lot of negotiating over my time, but i have never would imagine it like this. but they're calling this their last proposal. you're going to get mad, i can tell you that. >> senior quality technician, $18

>> democrats gather in charlotte, north carolina, for in week's convention, the president atepids a uawor rally in toledo. he'll go to louisiana to tour damage later on. >>> hundreds of residents are waiting for the power to come back a week after isaac. remnants of the storm are still dumping rain across arkansas and bringing the threat of severe weather. >>> heavy rain from ohio to the mid-atlantic and the deep south. thunderstorms in the southern rockies. >>> and finally, on this trail of the disappearing red panda. one of the cutest creatures on the planet. they are on the edge of extinction. >> dan harris traveled across the globe to place the red panda calls home. he found clues to their past closer to us. >> reporter: when the children press their noses up to the glass, captivated by these red panda cubs, they're staring into the face of a mystery. why is this animal, which once roamed vast regions of the earth now on the brink of extinction? our search for clues took us to the other side of the world, to the small sliver of the planet where red ban das can be found in the wild.

the reason we lost the $25 billion is because the administration made a decision to protect the uaw, the union, from the losses they normally take in bankruptcy. they decided that the unions -- the existing members weren't going to take a cut in their pay, keep their benefits. that doesn't normally happen in bankruptcy. that cost over $25 billion. the reason we're taking these losses is because the administration decided to protect the union. it wasn't necessarily to keep the companies running. >> that's actually -- >> that's the loss that happened. accept it and move on. >> we've heard that argument before. keith, what's your answer? >> that's been discredited by some reports that have looked into that. only 10% of the cost of the vehicle is about -- comes from labor costs. i mean, the idea that the unions were -- or the ones obstructing the progress, unions have made a number of concessions in order to get to this point. >> the unions got about 80 cents on the dollar on their debt. the other unsecured creditors got 20 cents on the dollar. >> the unions got the best deal out of that

>> 1914 henry ford doubled wages and to compete gm and chrysler followed suit. 30 years before the uawnsisted. >> because they wanted to compete. >> we would still have the t's 30. >> she is wrong. workers' lives have them plantation proved because of free enterprise contracts helped but then they hurt even the union workers because the rules slow-growth and that is what is best for workers. henry ford doubled wages then hired more. years later they get benefits for awhile but growth slowed then stopped. compared gm with toyota it created 15,000 jobs in america. over the same period gm lost 400,000. how was that good for workers? >> union members should have a right to unionize. but the downside is the opportunities lost because union rules limit the of entrepreneurs ability to

>> 1914 henry ford doubled wages and to compete gm and chrysler followed suit. 30 years before the uaw insisted. >> because they wanted to compete. >> we would still have the t's 30. >> she is wrong. workers' lives have them plantation proved because of free enterprise contracts helped but then they hurt even the union workers because the rules slow-growth and that is what is best for workers. henry ford doubled wages then hired more. years later they get benefits for awhile but growth slowed then stopped. compared gm with toyota it created 15,000 jobs in america. over the same period gm lost 400,000. how was that good for workers? >> union members should have a right to unionize. but the downside is the opportunities lost because union rules limit the of re

>> 1914 henry ford doubled wages and to compete gm and chrysler followed suit. 30 years before the uawted. >> because they wanted to compete. >> we would still have the t's 30. >> she is wrong. workers' lives have them plantation proved because of free enterprise contracts helped but then they hurt even the union workers because the rules slow-growth and that is what is best for workers. henry ford doubled wages then hired more. years later they get benefits for awhile but growth slowed then stopped. compared gm with toyota it created 15,000 jobs in america. over the same period gm lost 400,000. how was that good for workers? >> union members should have a right to unionize. but the downside is the opportunities lost because union rules limit the of entrepreneurs ability to adapt and grow.

the uaw workers in youngstown that put together the cruise that wouldn't be there in all likelihoodthey're already vote are for obama, voting for me, voting for democrats because they've had this process of understanding the auto rescue from the first day. the anxiety when they thought their lives were going to -- their communities and lives were so threatened and standard of living and all. but it's the tier 2 and 3 and 4 suppliers that might make the bolt that goes into the aluminum wheel that goes in cleveland and alcoa that go into the final assembly. those workers are likely to be non-union and those workers are learning increasingly that the auto rescue has mat terd to them. >> you know, senator brown, this is joy reid, do you feel like because -- i do think the republicans have bifurcated self interest among white working class voters from the cultural issues that draw them to the republican party. do you think that's more what's pulling those voters back to the democrats more than, let's say, paul ryan's issues on medicare? in ohio that's a state where medicare is resonating

we're going to hear from bob king as president of the uaw. king is one of the most powerful speakers about the importance of management and labor working together to make a good business case for jobs to be located here rather than somewhere else. he would say this is not your father's uaw. we know that we're in a globally competitive industry. we know that we will not kill the golden goose. that we have to work with business in order to be competitive in america. or these corporations will take their marbles and will go elsewhere where it is cheaper. >> cenk: in the context of business and the context of bain sometimes, they talk about how important it is to do investment. what a great genius mitt romney was for all of the investments that he made in statements and all of the other things. if it worked in that context why not in the government context. why not invest in the american people? i know it sounds like a cliche but it's not. it is a reality. i was reading an article today about how the government helped to build the golden gate bri

. >> what they did it for was to save the uaw and protect cronies. that is a fact.nce again, markets go up, they go down. to say that we are going to protect taxpayer investments and make an assumption that the stock has nowhere to go up is just arrogant. the stock can go down as well as up. taxpayers should be up. sell it now. cheryl: all right, you have major point, not great great heavy on the show. >> thank you. still to come, my "two cents more" on the do not call registry. in the ipo five already sold out and at&t is saying this is the best-selling iphone ever, where are the numbers to prove that cheryl: the new iphone five. cheryl: in focus tonight, the new iphone five. at&t saying that it has sold out all of their iphone five owns but did not release exact numbers. that is just the pre-orders online. the iphone five is officially on sale this friday. is it a blockbuster or is apple doing what he does best? how could at&t be sold out of one of the most insignificant products this year. >> you know, how is it that apple may be the best one company in the world

he says he wishes politicians could work together like the uaw and ford do. >> how do you treat your family? how do you treat business people you work with? other people in your lives. why do we have a different set of boundaries in the political world to allow negativity to happen. i don't think it is constructive. i stay positive and solve problems and be better off together. >> tell you that sounds like a pretty simple solution, doesn't it. he taking heat from both sides. republicans call him a ry ino. republican in name only. democrats call him a scott walker. beautiful must tanks coming off the -- mustangs. coming off the production line. saved 1200 jobs to be added with fusion production. pretty nice deal. ashley: jeff flock what a wonderful analogy. thank you so much for that. that was terrific. very true. tracy: words of advice from our very own jeff flock. i love it. >>> chicago's 25,000 public school teachers are on strike. teachers began walking the picket lines 6:30 a.m. local time this morning. the union planned a rally at 3:0 this afternoon. bot

the uaw did not exist then. it did not exist for another 30 years.ugh free enter rises not unions. >>neil: what is the difference between public unions and private unions? the public unions facing the pressure on cities and states and they feel like they are at end of a gun barrel. did you notice a dichotomy there? >>guest: private union is only 8 percent of private sector workers belong to a non-because they have competition. >>neil: were those public or private? >>guest: mixed. toyota in the last 20 years created 15,000 jobs in america. g.m. lost 400,000 jobs. toyota is less unionized. the union company helps the companies for a while but then they start growing. the private sector shrunk but the public sector it is a me -- monopoly so they get better deals. the politician will be long out of office when the deal has to be paid for that they have agreed to. >>neil: they have a patron saint in the president. obviously sit in their interests to see the president re-elected and they are all out to get the vote. in that sense, they can do that. they ar

. >> what they did it for was to save the uaw and protect cronies. that is a fact. once again, markets go up, they go down. to say that we are going to protect taxpayer investments and make an assumption that the stock has nowhere to go up is just arrogant. the stock can go down as well as up. taxpayers should be up. sell it now. cheryl: all right, you have major point, not great great heavy on the show. >> thank you. still to come, my "two cents more" on the do not call registry. in the ipo five already sold out and at&t is saying this is the best-selling iphone ever, where are the numbers to prove that for many, nexium helps relieve heartburn symptoms caused by acid reflux disease. osteoporosis-related bone fractures and low magnesium levels have been seen with nexium. possible side effects include headache, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. other serious stomach conditions may still exist. talk to your doctor about nexium. cheryl: the new cheryl: in focus tonight, the new iphone five. at&t saying that it has sold out all of their iphone five owns but did not release

media reports indicating a 4-year deal reached between the ford and uaw meeting objectives according to reports of both the union and ford. no change in the pension plan for active members. no changes in eligibility to the pension plan. this looks like it will avert a shutdown that would have happened tonight at 11:59 p.m. local time. the caw president said they were not able to get cost of living for retirees and pay raises increase for the life of the agreement. they will. david they're committing to new products at oakville, ontario, plant in 201. creating 600 new jobs averting a shutdown that would have happened tonight. back to you. david: robert, thank you very much. new anti-american protests spreading all over the middle east. we have a member of the libyan royal family to make his case why american investors should still look to libya for business opportunities. that is tough sell. sandra: oil analyst andy lipow will tell us why the number one driver for oil is not the middle east in his opinion. he will tell you what it is. david: wonder what it is. protests in china causin

washington insiderrism, give away to the unions and uaw. he would stop that. obama engaged in it after he said he'd change washington. arguement to be made there but they're not making it. >> bret: iran's president stirs things up again at the united nations. does your phone give you all day battery life ? droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. >> translator: the current abysmal situation of the world and abysmal history are due to the wrong management of the world. the proclaimed center of power who entrusted themselves to the devil. continued threats by the uncivillized zionist to resort to military action against your great nation is a clear example of this bitter reality. >> bret: iranian president at the united nations, stirring up again, stirring things up again as he always does in

you know the uaw -- >> thank you very much. diane and george, a sense of what you hear in delegation after delegation. at least the people here, ready to go, and ready to go back home to work. >> also, diane, with the problems that president obama has faced, a lot of democrats have not had the same enthusiasm they had four years ago. what they're hoping everyone here becomes a worker. you heard there, goes on facebook, goes on twitter. they're pioneering this with social media. >> they really are. i think what they're pointing out, it can't happen soon enough for them because tomorrow the first voting begins. >> north carolina. >> and on to september 27th in iowa. so we're going to have a lot of early voting. in a sense, it's begun. >> that's right. what you're hearing right now is a big roar for elizabeth warren, one of the rising stars of the democratic party. she was a senate candidate in massachusetts. running against scott brown. he's a party favorite, now is trying to cut a more moderate one. he did not get up and speak.

we're not worried about uaw workers in detroit.ampaign than that. >> and jobless rates was above 8%. i'd like to see someone come out and say a few things, but someone saying we were losing 750,000 jobs until the stimulus put into effect. >> eliot: the reality is that the republicans are going to create a false comparison. they're going to say back when ronald reagan was president or bill clinton was president unemployment was down 5%. when barack obama came in, we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. >> you can have high unemployment and raise taxes. >> those are freedom deficits. >> eliot: the other big winner, thethe purely substantive speech should be watched and examined for its power and what was in it was bill clinton. just a tutorial in what governance was all about. >> absolutely masterful. i'm glad he took his time with it and he took time to refute what gorge romney was saying last week. my favorite, when he said governor romney was not being honest about the and waivers. and governor romney said that depends on what your d

you know, look at some of the things that uaw has done where they have preserved jobs and yet been very, very competitive. so there are ways to get this job done, and it takes new and innovative ideas. basically, productivity is up, and the american workers need a raise. >> the focus lately has been on public sector unions and politicians taking on collective bargaining. do private sector and trade unions have to worry about similar attacks? how can they survive in an anti-union atmosphere? >> well, that's basically the same, i've been talking the war on workers. that's exactly what it is. in one of the states the republican politicians came to us, and they said, you know, we just want the -- we really just want the public employees. we're not after you. you guys are okay. we didn't believe them. but that's what they were trying the to tell us so we wouldn't oppose them. but in the labor movement we realize an injury to one is an injury to all, and we are very strong in standing with our friends and our compatriots that are in the public sector. um, we really have to keep standing with

we stopped by a uaw hall today. i asked do you owe your job to the president? he said yes.de, obama and romney are running even, but 56 for the president, 13-point edge in the blue collar detroit suburbs that be critical. this is the birthplace, they used to call it the birthplace of so-called reagan democrats. union households, the president's up 13 points. reagan democrats might break from their party, they're not breaking to vote for mitt romney. >> all right. thank you very much to john king. >>> the united states and china appear to be an o collision course. china has promised to investigate today after protesters swarmed u.s. ambassador's car in beijing. he got stuck in a demonstration which was technically taking place over japan's control of islands in the south china sea. it was an image which got a lot of people's attention and caused anxiety given actions we've seen in the middle east. the move in china comes as leon panetta wrapped up a very important visit. a crucial visit. he met with the future chinese president and on the agenda, the american military build

president obama will be talking to folks with the uaw union this morning, marking labor day, really trying to energize the labor vote here in ohio, which was so critical to him winning this state back in 2008. the focus of his remarks today, thomas are really going to on the auto bailout, the 2009 bailout as what he seeds as one of his largest achievements. according to the center for automotive research, 12% of ohioans have a connect to the auto industry, so this is something this community cares a lot about, and of course it allows the president to draw a sharp contrast to mitt romney. you talk about the back-and-forth are we better off than four years ago, the obama campaign trying to flip the switch and tremendousing to ask the question, will we be better off four years from now? i think you'll hear him talk about that as well. this is a state he won by five points back in 2008. it's far below the national average. if you look at the polls, the polls show a very tight race. the romney campaign trying to emphasize that this state, like many other states may be getting better, but not qu

uaw and ford. that's what governor snyder says it is all about. seems to be working here.just added 1200 jobs. david: ford is bringing not only are these cars originally going to be sold in mexico coming here but a lot of the jobs, because a lot of production facilities are moving to the united states as well. ford is showing you can do it better here at home. >> he saw your last segment talking to the guy, making stuff in china. i tell you can make stuff here as profitably. they wouldn't be expanding production here if they didn't think they could do it profitably. the stock is showing that today. the stock is up today. i think we finally found a bottom in auto stocks. david: year-to-date, at least trying to make its way back up. thank you jeff flock. we appreciate you being here. >> if you are fighting over who gets quarterback aaron rogers on your fantasy football team it could be costing your company lots of money. we'll take you "off the desk" with the details. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair i

the 9:00 to 10:00 hour, uaw, i just thought -- look this is my thing with -- i said this last night,y, watching bill clinton, you don't have to agree or disagree with him, it's like watching usain bolt run. you don't have to like usain bolt, but you have to -- >> i know you have something to say. quick. >> the two conventions side by side, just no comparison. the disjointed nature of the republican convention. >> democrat is saying -- >> wait. >> it was disjointed, it lacked energy and enthusiasm. what you see not just in this crowd but all over charlotte. >> it is different. stick around. i'm going to talk 2016 if i don't get it in today i'm not going to be able to get it in tomorrow. programming note on the nbc nightly news, brian williams will interview the first lady michele obama. on the nbc "nightly news" more from the panel. first, as everybody asks me for it, a delegate hold up the sign, what is the soup? >> toasted cumin and tomato. know what i say about cumin, why does something taste good and can't figure it out, because they put cumin in it. trivia question, who was the f

before the sacrifices you made, uaw members made, before those sacrifices and the courage of the presidented. >> so how do you think this debate is going to be coming up next month, a debate between that guy and ryan the guy he's taking shots at? >> you know, i have a cover story in the "new york" magazine about biden. i spent a lot of time with him in the last month. he is fired up and ready to go for this debate. and i think, you know, people forget that joe biden, you know, no one is going to nominate joe biden to be the chairman of men sa. he's not albert einstein, but what he's always been a master of is applied intelligence. he goes to school, back in 1988 when he had to take on robert bork, bourque was nominated to be chairman of the supreme court, supposedly one of the smartest guys in all of history of conservatism, bourque went off with all the legal liberal scholars learned his brief and came in and took bob bourque down and you can't -- he knows how to do these things that combine factual accuracy with human empathy, with performance skills. there's not very many debates joe bi

[crowd cheering] >> for almost 20 years i've been a proud member of the uaw local 1112.econd generation auto worker are. and i'm proud and thanks to president obama, i still am. my mom retired from gm after 30 years, and my brother worked there too. but really everyone there is like family. we look out for each other, not just because we're gm or because we are ohioans but we're americans. [crowd cheering] when the auto industry was on its last leg, i was laid off and i was terrified. how was i going to provide for my daughter and my two boys. or pay my mortgage. how is the valley going to survive when so many of us were out of work, when so many to lose what they worked so hard for. the answer wasn't obvious, and the solution wasn't popular. president obama didn't think about the polls or the politics, he thought about the people. [crowd cheering] and because he put himself in our shoes, we're back on our feet. some said we shouldn't rescue the auto industry. president obama knew he had to move our country forward. today, i'm back at work. we have three shifts building

live at 12:30 p.m., president obama speaking at a uaw labor day rally in toledo, ohio. >> we live in a world where technology, where networks, are of increasing consequence in our foreign policy. it's driving political movement, it's increasingly the backbone for communications in commerce around the world, and so for us it's just a tool, but it's an important tool. so we use it for communications, we have 288 facebook pages with 13 million friends, i think we have almost 200 official twitter accounts with a couple million followers who are using it for communications. but of greater consequence in my opinion is part of what we're looking at are some really tough traditional foreign policy challenges, and thinking about how we can apply two of america's unique strengths, our ability to innovate and our technology and see how we can apply those to a foreign policy challenge. >> more about u.s. technology in foreign policy tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. >> this morning, charlotte observer political reporter tim funk previews the democratic national convention. then, mark minks, pr