the uaw says you are trying to intimidate workers. history with the uaw. you try to negotiate a deal. can you respond to that? history, doesg that go into your comments at all? i should've mentioned that in my opening comments. i was on008, back when the banking committee as the most junior member, i sat in the camera mans lap at the end. i was just dumbfounded when day. we had a hearing where we had the detroit three come in in asking for $25 billion in the head of uaw sitting with them. hearing, you the have one advantage of being the last person to ask questions. you can ask weston that no one else has asked. my question was, how are you going to divide up the money? we're going to divide amongst ourselves. pretty interesting for three companies in the uaw within to ask for $25 billion. we reconvened in two weeks. the answer was beyond belief. i spent tremendous amount of time with analyst in new york and other laces understanding these three companies and the uaw. in intenseended up negotiations with chris dodd one evening with three detroit companies

>> uaw and equal pay. cannot proceed without letting jewell ask a question. he taught me a lot about economics. go ahead. >> i wonder if you could elaborate about the growth of contract labor, especially in manufacturing. there was a troubling article in the "washington post" recently about a guy that was working and getting fraction of the pay and not getting any benefits. >> uaw and contract labor. >> first of all, uaw is a great union. if you look at all the benefits that they pioneered over the years, it is almost laughable to say that the uaw is not going to fight for their members. but they also fight to be the vanguard of the civil rights movement. they were out there fighting for every worker and they were a great union. the members that i know understand that first of all, the union is not the members. it is some workers blog somewhere that is called the uaw. the unit is made up of those 2000 workers at volkswagen, and those 2000 workers at volkswagen will decide what they want, what benefits they

he says the uaw wants to muzzle public officials like yourself. >> the uaw doesn't want to muzzle anyficial. what the uaw is saying and rightfully so, is corker as a senator, the governor of the state, the state senator, all ganged up and made interference into a free election into the workers and made threats. had that been done by an employer, that would be an unfair labor practice. the agreement with the uaw that they worked together on making sure that the plant was successful, corker, the governor and the state senator came in and intimidated the workers in the form of threat that they could end up losing their jobs over the long term if no new mo models were put in chattanooga. this is a new precedent in my time in the union in 40 years. i never seen a government official stick their nose in like this. >> he is now trying to soft pedal it saying they think i interfered somehow. go ahead. >> he is on record. we have his voice. this is not make believe. we have his voice making that threat. the governor's voice supporting that threat. we have the state senator's voice making that

the you -- the uaw has taught a complaint with the relations board. we have a full board for the first time there in a long time. outcome know what the will be. i know they have piled an appeal. >-- filed an appeal. >> that says, how do you think labor should fight against these forces if it hopes to remain relevant? >> i do not know what the nlrb is going to find. it seems to me the people that voted no, i'm wondering if they're having second thoughts because they may have taken to heart, and made by public officials that simply were not true. re e there needs to be a -vote on this. not to ignore the last bailiwick, i wanted to ask you. ice and a lot of time with the tea party for other stories in the last couple of months. timehave spent a lot of with the tea party for other stories in the last couple of months. they say arne duncan is one of the most powerful in history because of the inaction of congress to reauthorize the no child left behind act. do you agree with that statement? what do you think can be done to and stick -- unstick the stuck ed

uaw and contract labor. pre-k's first of all, uaw is a great union.if you look at all the benefits that they pioneered over the years, it is almost laughable to say that the uaw is not going to fight for their members. to be thelso fight vanguard of the civil rights movement. they were out there fighting for every worker and they were a great union. the members that i know understand that first of all, the union is not the members. it is not some workers log somewhere that is called the uaw. the unit is made up of those 2000 workers at volkswagen, and those 2000 workers at volkswagen will decide what they want, what benefits they want, and the uaw will give them the know-how, the mechanism, and the structure to help them achieve it. but those members are the uaw. system was aeight fad. employers decided, the best way for us to reduce costs right now is for us to have two tiers. we told them it would not work. people get resentful. people say, i'm doing the same job as you and your making twice as much as me, it's a stupid system. and it is being phase

those members are uaw. i believe the two-tiered wage system was employers decided the best way for us to reduce wages or reduce costs right now is for us to have two tiers. we told them that wouldn't work. able get resentful. people say i'm doing the same job that you're making twice as much as me. that's a stupid system and it's being phased out. it will be phased out in grocery stores and it's been phased out elsewhere. >> the growth of contract labor. >> what you have right now is virtual companies where you have a company that doesn't have any of the employees and here's what they do. they come in and organize a group of people in the next week the company is gone. it's a design to keep workers from being able to get a fair share. it's dangerous and people are now finding it doesn't work so well because of the quality, because of the skills and the upgrading skills and turning people over too fast and they can keep them. he can't keep the quality up so they are starting to come back to where they are sa

the uaw didn't like that. election with a whole new set of rules. senator from tennessee, bob corker, is here right now, probably fired up ready to explain. good morning, senator. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. thank you. >> so the uaw on valentine's day certainly didn't get a love note there. they found out, look, we're not getting our way, but they're not going down without a fight now. what's going on? >> they were in the plant, elisabeth, for two years organizing. they tried to get volkswagen to agree to -- fortunately volkswagen asked for a secret ballot. they gave nine days notice and an election was going to take place. over a three-day period, the workers there realized that there was just nothing the uaw it to offer, that they were there because of money. they were there because of dues. they already made more than what uaw workers and other plants with the same length of service were making. so now the uaw is appealing, saying that people like me, voicing our concerns relative to what the

the uaw has taught a complaint with the relations board. we have a full board for the first time there in a long time. i do not know what the outcome will be. i know they have filed an appeal. >> that says, how do you think labor should fight against these forces if it hopes to remain relevant? >> i do not know what the nlrb is going to find. it seems to me the people that voted no, i'm wondering if they're having second thoughts because they may have taken to heart, and made by public officials that simply were not true. maybe there needs to be a re-vote on this. >> not to ignore the last element and bailiwick, i wanted to ask you. i have spent a lot of time with the tea party for other stories in the last couple of months. they say arne duncan is one of the most powerful in history because of the inaction of congress to reauthorize the no child left behind act. do you agree with that statement? what do you think can be done to unstick the stuck education laws? >> i cannot believe there's something i agree with the tea party on. arnie dunc

. >> uaw fights for a fair election in tennessee. >> government regulators are deciding now whether ation should be held at the factory. >> irresponsible interference and to a free election. >> we put up 13 billboards around the plant in the community. >> what we're trying to do is intervene. >> with corker's attitude, they might have to revisit whether they put any plants in south. >> uaw's dennis williams says vw workers were scared to death and threatened by outside comments from politicians. >> they had no problem coming to the ribbon ceremony. >> san antonjoining us, mayor, have you with us. seeing a lot of people come out of the woodwork on this story. you've got southern momentum, one of the groups, and the national right to work foundation. what is this signal about corker's involvement that he's trying to get some allies involved in this? >> well, i mean, obviously you had powerful allies to begin with. you know what you saw was uncalled for, unprecedented, and really un-american tactics. this was kremlin style repression and really manipulating the media, creating, you know,

one of the questions i asked bill ford is about the uaw. he was a fan of the uaw.ns these days, you know where i'm going with this, charter schools and the teachers uni don't onin this city, you have become enemy number one. >> i think that's an east coast perspective where you don't see the country. let me give you two examples where i partnered. >> i saw what you said to chuck todd last week. >> if you keep it up, i may csa it to you. i'll give you a classic example. we have a diversified economy. no one sector makes up 13%. i worked with the carpets and teamsters to remove the lawsuit from mccormick place, the biggest footprint in the world. once that lawsuit was gone, convention business, we signed $7 billion of long-term business. we worked out a deal between the electrical workers and the stage hands. they promote shows now. we have 30,000 hotels in the city of chicago. we have 10,000 more. more hotels are going up because of the convention and tourism business. labor partnered with us. we don't have any of the hatfield mccoy fights at mccormick anymore. they

>> i have no idea what the conflict or rules are for uaw people. on the assumption that he has none i'm expecting him to be listed by october the 1st. i think they may slip by a couple months but it is not going to matter. i think we're going forward with the project. we should be there by end of the year. >> real quick on the gm recall. i know you don't like to capitalize on anybody's difficulties. but you saw what happened with toyota there was opportunity there. >> i don't wish that event on anybody. i tell you my thoughts, i don't mean had in spiritual sense, i understand mary's position. these are different cull times. i'm sure because of her experience at gm she will be able to navigate through this process carefully, diligently with the right answer. but it is not pleasant. it remind all of us for the need to be incredibly watchful and on the piece. i'm not suggesting that she wasn't but if these things, if they do happen, could have a devastatings impact on our organization. i sincerely hope and i'm sure it won't impact how gm operates goin

there was nothing that the uaw could offer them to enhance their families lives. i think the community understood full well the negative impact the uaw was going to have in our community and our ability to attract jobs. i do not know. the president's, and on friday, that were purposely leaked out, where he said i cannot believe people in chattanooga care more about chairman stockholders than they do about the wages of the people on the planet. it? impact did was putwhat we did was people that were paying attention. how many of you read the paper these days? [laughter] does i think they were ribbon around the papers trying to decide -- riveted around the papers trying to decide? i just don't know. i think the bigger impact really was the grassroots efforts that took lays within the plant, where people had to, within shifts, and in brakes had to inform people the fact that -- most of the employees got it -- that all they wanted for at the was dollarhe u v w signs. reported right after that by the ap that they have had to sell $300 million in assets over the past sev

my knowledge of uaw came into play.nk my involvement from their perspective, getting back to your base question, i probably and public in any number one to the uaw. host: that was from the detroit news. public enemy number one of the uaw. commentstion to his but what is organized labor? volkswagenthe personnel, the company personnel, say a week after the corkerat what senator said about the company and about the incentives and the threats essentially it said if you vote for this the company will no longer make cars in tennessee. we are out and out wrong. at the end of the day, i have never seen public officials try to enter the are and others outside of the plant try to interfere with a union election and make those kind of threats. wantan see he does not people to have a voice at work. let the plantay " make the decisions." volkswagen was neutral. the union election lawsuit by 40 votes on something where there was more threats and intimidation from outsiders than we have ever seen. that is a really sad day. at the end

a group trying to rally uaw support -- they have not won the war.aw officials and prounion workers say they won't hold a vote until the company of allow to make theirrt ."tches to workers this is degrading the stock of american workers. it's basically contract workers. that's all you have. they're working seven days a eek eating five dollars an hour pay. talking about the economy. the economy was going to go whether it is slow or fast or medium. the economy is irrelevant. what's relevant is the people working pulling the train. take from the people and give it to the givesment, the government to the poor people -- you have to stop believing this mess that the corporations are telling you. it's insane. thomas in daytona beach, florida. democrats line. off, i'm a truck driver. about 30 years of experience. 3 million miles. they had a deal .alled coefficient overtime the way that works is, once i work every eight hours, i make seven dollars an hour, and make $18.44 for my regular wage as a truck driver and then once i get eight hours, i make seven doll

the uaw biggest donors for democrats. and for all political candace. not these individual donors. be exposed here. >> in this cycle, again, americans for prosperity, which is not the koch brothers but their organization of donors has, you know, again, $30 million. >> wealthy democratic donors putting together pacs too. >> it's going to be pretty much a level playing field here though. >> it's a little bit overwhelming. this is how you it works. >> at love money. anyway. lucky american people watched this one. anyway, panel, thank you. straight ahead, a witness breaks down on the stand during the blade runner murder trial. that's next. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month? yup. all 5 of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line, anytime, for $15 a month. low dues, great terms. let's close! new at&t mobile share value plans our best value plans ever for business. with over 100,000 miles. that's the power of germ

the uaw biggest donors for democrats. and for all political candace.nors. .hat's is what should be >> in this cycle, again, americans for prosperity, which is not the koch brothers but their organization of donors has, you know, again, $30 million. >> wealthy democratic donors putting together pacs too. >> it's going to be pretty much a level playing field here though. >> it's a little bit overwhelming. this is how you it works. >> at love money. anyway. lucky american people watched this one. anyway, panel, thank you. straight ahead, a witness breaks down on the stand during the blade runner murder trial. that's next. sailing past ancient glaciers in alaska -- makes you realize how old time is and how short life is. she can take all the time she wants. princess cruises. come back new. [ female announcer ] plan your seven-day cruise from just $549. call your travel agent or 1-800-princess. can go 795 highway miles on a single tank. huh... so you could drive from los angeles all the way philadelphia with just three stops for fuel. that's just a hop, ski

governor rick snyder has made michigan the home of the uaw a right to work state.t has taken an unemployment rate that he inherited well over 11% and brought it to the national average. that's because governors, republican governors across this country have stood up and done things. not just talked about them. >> a new poll from "the washington post" and msnbc shows that many self-described conservatives oppose a christie candidacy. 38% of conservatives say they would not vote for chris christie if he ran for president. joining me now is steve schmidt, msnbc political analyst and former senior adviser to the mccain campaign. and steve kornacki, host of msnbc's "up with steve kornacki." steve kornacki, a warm enough reception for a guy who was banned from cpac last year. >> although, you know, when they was banned, there was always some question last year about how happy was he to be banned? and maybe he was the-- there wa request put in to be banned. his political operation last year is to roll up as big a possible margin as you can in a blue state so that in 2014,

a huge blow to the uaw.d prounion workers say they will not hold a plan to unionize unless they can make their pitch straight to the workers inside the factory. you have a standoff which will continue. more coming up later. you remember the cancer patient from michigan who lost her health insurance under obamacare because of obamacare, she said. harry reid called her a liar, now she's been attacked by the free press in the "washington post." with republican from oklahoma. welcome to the program. i can't imagine attacking a cancer patient is good policy. i don't know why on earth they would do something like such in an election year. >> for them in an election year, there battling with this perception everything is just fine. they are fighting against an avalanche trying to determine one person who may or may not tell the truth. thousands will say my story is correct, i am a diabetic. all these things are coming around. now i don't have access to my doctor and by hospital. millions of people are experiencing

how about michigan where governor rick snyder has made michigan the home of the uaw a right to work state. in florida rick scott has taken -- in florida rick scott has taken an unemployment rate he inherited well over 11% and brought it to under the national average and because of free market conservative ideas has created over 450,000 new private sector jobs in three years in florida. >> so there you have it, a chris christie who last year was not even invited to cpac making an impassioned plea to his audience, to the base now at cpac and critical speaker at that, especially at a time when he's been under the microscope for the bridgegate scandal that is still under investigation both on a federal and local level. i want to bring in dana bash to comment on this appearance. what did chris christie need to do when he stepped up to that microphone today, dana? >> he needs to express to the people who are here who are gathered from all over the country, conservative activists, that he is somebody who is one of them. and it's still going on behind me as you can see and hear. but i think the m

caller: i am a uaw worker from upstate new york. i get my news straight from my union -- from c-span also. host: what kind of news do you get from the uaw? caller: anything that has to do with the work wastes. economics and new organizing. the same is true for c-span. host: ralph, hang on for two seconds. i want to get your response to this. that is a comment that several of our facebook commenters have done. they do their own research. caller: i would respond that c-span is actual news, it is not opinions or opinion talkers like the other cable talk shows. host: that is ralph in new york. this is dan in asheville, north carolina. caller: good morning. host: where'd you get your news? caller: caller: facebook is one of my sources. i am so happy that i can watch c-span on my ipad. i did away with cable maybe four years ago. host: really, so you just get us to the ipad? caller: i've had to go without c-span and washington journal and now i can watch "washington journal" on my ipad. i can get all my news with the various news sites. ho

find out if your business can qualify at start-upny.com stuart: an update on the uaw fights unionize tennessee. apparently national labor relations board to have a revote. workers initially voted not to unionize. now a group called the national right to work group suing on the appeal. made airlines launch and entertainment system to stream movies and tv shows on your apple devices starting next month. the service will be installed in most domestic and international flights. the new platform not available for android or windows yet, united did not rule it out down the road. apple stock down $0.82. a big name down, dollar general blames the cold weather, competition and the economy. nicole, did they leave anything out? nicole: i thought it was interesting, actually. cold weather, we have been hearing that one, plenty sales were weaker. what is interesting is how they were noting consumer confidence in the concerns. while we have heard from so many retailers, they talked about severe weather, dollar general saying they'r they are concernet consumer confidence. they geared toward the low

the uaw has filed an appeal to what counteract this vote.ople voted, all the people that you work with? >> well, we had 89% vote. >> wow. >> something like 712 to 626, in that neighborhood. >> and before we talk about the appeal, what is it like, you know, at the factory now? is there tension there? >> well, we're professional and we're building a quality product at chattanooga, but naturally, there is an unspoken tension. you know, there was this side and that side of the opposition and what we're doing now is we're reaching our hand out to our fellow teammates and let's get this behind us. instead of us standing toe to toe on these issues, let's stand side by side and work on those issues you have trouble with and we'll do it better together than we can separately and that's what our message is right now. >> how is it going to work? about 53% of you voted to not unionize and so the other people kind of want to do it. is there a possibility that another vote will have to be taken? how does this appeals process work? >> well, to go through t

governor rick snyder has made michigan the home of the uaw and right to work state.lorida, rick scott has taken an unemployment rate that he inherited well over 11% and brought it to under the national average and because of free market, conservative ideas, has created over 450,000 new private sector jobs in three years in florida. that is because governors, republican governors, have stood up and done things. not just talked about them. what you see in washington is people who only want to talk. they cannot stop talking. the most dangerous 10 feet in washington is between anybody who wants to start talking and a camera. this is what they are about. you can see it in examples not only with the dysfunction in congress, but one story that i love about the president. your member when they set up this hold supercommittee thing? ash you remember when they were -- when they set up this hold supercommittee thing? after they got nothing done, what did the white house say? the white house said the president never met with the supercommittee because he knew they were doomed to

joining us on the phone is tim waters, political director of the uaw, they worked on rights for collegelet me make a quick correction. usw, united steelworkers. >> thanks for that correction. bad read on prompter there on my part. looks like you're up against a pretty stiff appeal here. what's your confidence it turns into a long lasting ruling? >> i am extremely confident this is going the withstand the challenges from northwestern. if you take a close look at the -- we sat through a hear for four or five days, extensive record was developed for the regional director to make his decision, and the decision was pretty concrete. frankly, it's a pretty simple case. it's not as complicated as everyone is making it out to be. the main question being, are college football players at northwestern university employees the university, do they work, do they get paid? yes. do they get disciplined? yes. are they told when to show up for work? yes. how long to work? yes. all the things that go right down the line of determining legally whether someone is an employee and whether there's an employee/e