so that cheating demo that denner coppa showed us, that was on "rainbow 6 siege," a game made by ubisoftthe maker of that game told us in part, "rainbow 6 siege" does not tolerate cheats found in games. players using cheats are banned accordingly. we also should note it was against bots, not against humans video game players not only pay to play, but they will fork over big money to watch others play as well. some of the most watched players bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars a month joining us right now to talk about how fast the gaming industry is growing is chris velasco, with end gadget chris, thank you for being here. >> becky, thanks for having me >> all right this is a little weird the idea that people would actually use real money to go online and buy cheats to cheat on a video game. but there is real money involved here how big of a deal is this? >> it is a pretty big concern, especially when we're looking at the sort of amateur leagues. there are all of these people playing at home that just want that edge, because they know the potential for growth and development in