to me that is absolutely ubsurd. that is nonsense. i insulted. and i know what went on. my educated guess would be up there in the marketing departments they wanted a shock and awe marketing plan where you were gonna drop the bomb and get everybody excited. it my mind if you're marketer, you should've gone from 20 to 25 and 30 to 35 to 40. it's a lot more palatable. now i'm wondering what has gone on in the last 30 years in that industry. alright dave we have to leave it there. always good to hear from you. dave bahoric, tradethenews.com with us over at the cme group. thanks tom. still to come the bigger the name, the higher the tuition, but are the more expensive, prestigious colleges really worth it....we'll find out. but first, playing the market momentum. a careful market optimist joins us....that's after the break. the stock rally this year.and it has been a rallyhas been led by some strange partners, technology stocks and commodity plays. neil peplinski is president of cedar capital advisors. world into a program and to meet you. i think our call coming in to the y