i remember being with her and seeing ubu roi, and i was probably 13 mm, and i remember following thiserised by it. drum hit. woman shrieks. it's a really interesting production — very bare set, minimal props — i think there was a drum kit on the stage — and the play ubu roi is a satire, interweaving some of shakespeare's stories as well. there's a bit of hamlet in there, and macbeth. there was a special spirit in peter brook's plays, you know? and his way of directing. first of all, is that your imagination really go strong when there's almost no object. it's not, you know, the set is not telling you where you are. you'rejust imagining. so, i felt it was — and it was not that conscious when i saw it, you know, when i was a teenager. you probably haven't seen that production since you were there in that theatre. i haven't seen it since then. you know, there is some film — we found it in the bbc archive. amazing. yeah. let me just — just have a look at this clip here. let mejust press... shivers. shouting. can you see? this is the... he makes the... ..the animal! this is a bear, is it?