that is not how i understand ubuntu. not saying there are not cases where whatever you do you cannot escape a custodial sentence. i'm simply dealing with the principal. and what it says to me, how ubuntu worked is in this way. get him to give the goat back and if he cannot get him to do something to that society to compensate, to work back. carry water, do whatever. do something good in society coupled with your apology that everyone can benefit. the victim, the family, and the restoretive justice that could not be separated with rehabitation. with that person stealing the goat is back in the community, paying the price in a very restorative way. and one looks at the outcome of the case, and we'll refer to the case and two judges in the high court explain this principle. one gets a far better understanding of the real meaning of restorative justice. and a far better understanding of the judgments that i will refer to saying previously it was as if it was standard. you commit a crime, you must go to jail. maybe there are