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governance, where they should be able to discuss these issues with their congressman, and increasingly, ucb. neil: a lot of them have said, "the hell with it" -- ec leaders ducking under. -- you see leaders ducking under. the barney frank option. is it really the congressman's responsibility to respond that way? >> in a way, yes it is, and i respect congressman frank for coming forward and doing it. the larouche that had the obama /hitler's sign -- neil: across the board with anyone. >> that is true. at least he did not hide under his desk. a lot of them are hiding under their desks. neil: all right, david, thank you very much. so where is all of that clunker cash? our doctors watching? -- are they? neil: çça short time ago in tripoli, libya, the mastermind behind the lockerbie, scotland, pan am flight 103 terrorist attack, greeted as a hero in libya today. scottish authorities released him, which caused international outrage, particularly among the families of the 270 victims of that attack. because we are told that al- megrahi is dying of cancer, but the families are arguing that their

it all happened -- get this -- 180 miles off of the coast of texas, and ucb landmass there, just southand west of houston. 180 miles offshore. joining us on the telephone is the man and found them. eddie, good to talk to you. >> you bet. shepard: you must have been floored. all of a sudden, there are these people. >> we did not see them. we passed them up, and about two miles away, we went to a wig and started fishing, and i was sitting on the back of the boat -- we went to a rig. and i said, "there is something over there." shepard: and when you get close, what happened? >> i got the binoculars out, and i said, "well, somebody is waiving something," and it was a t-shirt he was waiting, and another person was waving a brown t-shirt, and i could not see it, but i could see the white t-shirt. i could not see the boat because they were only about 6 inches out of the water, he said they were like standing on the water, and i said, "let's go," to and we tried to get the coast guard orbit oil rigs, and we could not get anybody -- and i said, "let's go," and we try to get the coast guard or t