now we're working directly with the providers and the community both brown and sutter hospital and ucf we're working directly with them. we're trying to get to the someplace with kaiser. it's hard to get them to understand the needs of all the employers in the bay area. i think we're very confident when we're asking from something from kaiser other folks are asking the same things. we're very clear we have costs in health care that's not was it expected to be we put a plan in place whether it's employee wellness or if we have other issues we can get the cost under control. eave had trouble getting kaiser to the table on that

now we're working directly with the providers and the community both brown and sutter hospital and ucf we're working directly with them. we're trying to get to the someplace with kaiser. it's hard to get them to understand the needs of all the employers in the bay area. i think we're very confident when we're asking from something from kaiser other folks are asking the same things. we're very clear we have costs in health care that's not was it expected to be we put a plan in place whether it's employee wellness or if we have other issues we can get the cost under control. eave had trouble getting kaiser to the table on that regard. we had to show the health board that all our data indicates we should have had a reduction in the last few years and as we dug into the presentation it was not argue - it was quite frustrating especially with we're trying to do wellness and get people healthier they expect to see that >> are the lielgsz. we have actual would have had a negative trend on blue shield because of the romper taxes we came in at zero. our rates in blue shield as declined and with

gave $100 million to ucf hospitals and mark zuckerberg gave 18 million shares of facebook to the silicon valley community foundation and joined with larry page, milner and the rest to create a science prize as well. talking about taking those rule breakers aside, we can come back to them if we wish. as a general rule, our millionaires are not contributing enough or locally or both? >> well, i think one could argue they aren't contributing enough. it's not going to the pressing local needs and causes. so some of the money that does stay here is going to higher education in places like university hospitals and research centers but what in the study, not going to people living in poverty in the region which is one in four residents, the people who need food or access to the kind of education that would prepare them to take advantage of the amazing opportunities we have here in the valley. >> let me get out here, all giving is good giving. you can't -- you can't -- if you give a dollar to a hungry person, whether local or disstant, now it becomes a matter of arguing which is more important.