you mentioned the ucr, that leaves it up to states. unfortunately, not all states handle it the same. >> some have incapacitation. >> absolutely. wisconsin used to be one of them. i don't know what can be done on a federal level there, but we did have a very wonderful, the department did a great job of presenting a definition of consent that talks about not only affirmative consent. you don't have to yell no. you are simply focusing on is there a yes, is there an agreement. and absent that, it can't confer consent. that's why it hurts survivors so much to say clearly it's consensual, because you didn't do x, y, z when you lived through it. that's what's missing, and it needs to exist. >> the problem is, that obviously, this is not a federal crime, unless you're on, in the district of columbia or indian reservations in some instances. you know, these crimes are state crimes. so we can't define for states elements of their crimes. >> but we can do models and incentives. >> we can. and i think that's one thing we should look at in this le

we file title ix ucr complaints. for the last four or five years we've been going out and working with campuses. we work very closely with the office of violence against women. we teach with the mississippi coalition against violence assault and work with campus dpran tees. and i do consultations with schools all across the country. i bring a varied experience. >> great, well, i've got far more questions than we have time. but i also want everyone to feel i have comfortable jumping in. this is a discussion. this is not a formal hearing. so please contribute when you've got something to say. the worst thing that could happen is for us to finish a couple hours of this and you walk out of this room saying, boy, they need to know this. we are here to listen and learn.

we file title ix ucr complaints. instead of sitting on our strategies we could go out and teach them. for the last four or five years we've been going out and working with campuses. we work very closely with the office of violence against women. we teach with the mississippi cooh ligs against sexual assault. we work with campus grantees. and i do consultations with schools all across the country. i bring a varied experience. not only just in education but training on the higher ed side as well. >> great. well, i've got far more questions than we have time. but i also want everyone to feel very comfortable jumping in. this is a discussion. this is not a formal hearing. so please contribute when you've got something to say. the worst thing that could happen is for us to finish a couple hours of this and you walk out of this room sayi, boy, they need to know this. we are here to listen and learn. and not pontificate. i'll start with a few questions and then i'll turn it over to my colleagues to ask some questions. but y

we file title ix ucr complaints. for the last four or five years we've been going out and working with campuses. we work very closely with the office of violence against women. we teach with the mississippi coalition against violence assault and work with campus dpran tees. and i do consultations with schools all across the country. i bring a varied experience. >> great, well, i've got far more questions than we have time. but i also want everyone to feel i have comfortable jumping in. this is a discussion. this is not a formal hearing. so please contribute when you've got something to say. the worst thing that could happen is for us to finish a couple hours of this and you walk out of this room saying, boy, they need to know this. we are here to listen and learn.