that's an example with ucsd in california san diego, which is one of the top programs in engineering and medicine in particular. so we have a symposium every year. once a year, we will be in taiwan. one year we will be there. we do a rotation for two months. we have five students every year . >> it is eye-opening for them. >> they can see how other students in their country, how hard they are working. so they are not complaining anymore and also we have joined a research program funded by the national science council with the hope that we will make our centers for medical science one of the best in the world. >> given these rogue grams yamane has been doing, do you think yamane and other prominent universities in taiwan are on the right track in terms of the global trend of higher education question mark more international collaboration? more students visiting different universities for a semester or for a full year. these are the things indicating taiwan's higher education is making adjustments and the adjustments are putting taiwan on the right track. >> i think so, but let's put t