a little earlier, we had a quite a detailed statement from the uk ministry of defence in what they calledhat the feud between the wagner group and the ministry of defence in russia had escalated to what they called outright military confrontation. as we've been hearing, they confirmed from their sources that wagner forces crossed from occupied ukraine into russia in at least two places. rostov one of them, as we've mentioned. they also say that further wagner groups are heading north to get to moscow. they say there has been very limp limited evidence of fighting between business groups and the russian military. they say that overall, the coming hours, what will be key is the loyalty of russian security forces, especially the russian national guard. that is the latest from the uk ministry of defence. thank you. let's speak to sergey markov who is a former political advisor to vladimir putin. thank you so much forjoining us. i'm interested for your reaction to what is happening inside your country at the moment. at what is happening inside your country at the moment. of course, it's very n

according to the uk ministry of defence. — according to the uk ministry of defence, they say they believe has— this village is one of the places that has been land reclaimed by ukraine, — that has been land reclaimed by ukraine, learned that was held since 2014. _ ukraine, learned that was held since 2014. and _ ukraine, learned that was held since 2014, and this will be one of the first bite — 2014, and this will be one of the first bite of _ 2014, and this will be one of the first bits of land that has been reclaimed. to put this in context, the amount— reclaimed. to put this in context, the amount of land reclaimed by ukraine — the amount of land reclaimed by ukraine from the invading russian forces _ ukraine from the invading russian forces since they began at the counteroffensive earlier this month is absolutely minuscule. everyday we hear announcements from ukraine about— hear announcements from ukraine about advancing 200 metres here, 400 metres— about advancing 200 metres here, 400 metres there. it is tiny. i don't think— metres there. it is tiny. i don't think they— metres there.

the uk ministry of defence believes that the wagner forces, their ultimate aim would be, if needs be,y have said that. hopefully you can get an idea of why this m4 road and these two other cities that we have been talking about, rostov—on—don and then up to moscow, are key if the wagner mercenaries want eventually to get to moscow. thank you. you mentioned that fire. throughout the day we've been trying to get you the latest pictures from russia. these are some of the latest pictures that we have recently received. we will shower them to you in a moment. they have been verified by the team at bbc verify. you can see a helicopterjust to the right—hand side of your screen there and note the right—hand side that significant explosion. smoke pouring into the sky. the video ends at that moment but we been able to locate that as the city of voronezh. as we mentioned, you can see the military helicopter flying over that urban area. we believe that is an oil depot in the area. ijust have to stress, we do not know here is operating that helicopter, weather it was wagner or russia. let's just a

the uk ministry of defence thinks that their ultimate aim could be to get to moscow, and we are gettinghought we would take a lot to live look at google maps. if you look at the traffic on google maps for this area around voronezh, you can see all of these areas marked here are probably a roadblock or a problem with the traffic. this is the m4 that heads up traffic. this is the m4 that heads up to moscow. you can see it on that map there. that is where we are talking about. at the moment are all the roadblocks that google maps are telling us are in place at the moment. telling us are in place at the moment-— telling us are in place at the moment. brilliantly bringing to . ether moment. brilliantly bringing together that _ moment. brilliantly bringing together that information, i moment. brilliantly bringing - together that information, thank you so much. on nicky �*s map was kyiv, the capital. as we've heard president zelensky has been reacting to events in russia saying �*russia's weakness is obvious' and that the longer russia keeps troops in ukraine the more chaos it will see. i got

uk ministerial of defence is also avoided pointing blame. the white house says it's too early to say and the uk's ministry of defence has also avoided apportioning it and who might have done it? 0ur correspondent rajini vaidyanathan has been working with the bbc verify team and is in the verify hub with more. well, the team here at bbc verify have been looking into more detail at the circumstances around the breach of the dam. now, first thing to show you is surveillance camera footage that the team have got hold of. i'lljust press play on it here. now, this is after the dam was breached as you can see quite clearly, there. timestamp here, 6th ofjune, 2.46 in the morning. and you can see up there, even after the breach, there's some explosions in the distance. now, what is quite key is that the team were looking at some telegram messages around 2.15—18, and people back then were reporting that they were hearing weird noises. then at around 2.40, more chat on the telegram channels, people saying that they heard more explosions, the really loud sound of water. some people even speculating that the dam had been breached. so that was only around 5 m

that you and i will probably have heard of, but it is significant because according to the uk ministry of defence has been [and reclaimed tjy places that has been [and reclaimed by ukraine, a land that was held since 2014, and this will be one of the first bits of land since 2014, and this will be one of the first bits of [and reclaimed. to put this into context, the amount of land put this into context, the amount of [and reclaimed by ukraine from invading russian forces since they began at the counteroffensive earlier this month is absolutely minuscule. everyday we hear announcements from ukraine, we have advanced 200 metres here, 400 metres there. it is tiny. i don't think they have begun at the big counteroffensive in earnest yet, they have not yet committed their main force. but the obstacles they have still got to surmount are huge. the only way the ukrainians are going to make a real big strategic difference in this fight is if they can split the russian forces in two, if they can drive south and separate the two big bits of russian occupied territory. to do that, they have got to get thro

as you are talking there, just had a line from the uk ministry of defence about the noises that wereo the contrary. this is best achieved by the visible observation of wreckage leading to an unequivocal reality and avoids potential speculation following analysis of potential inconclusive noises. a little bit complex in that last sentence, but the idea of even if you detect noises that could have been an implosion, you have to remain optimistic. what do you make of that? fin optimistic. what do you make of that? ., ., ., ., , ~ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should be _ that? on the one hand, a noise like an implosion should be quite - an implosion should be quite distinctive. you think of some of the undersea sensor networks that were operated for decades, they were able to detect implosions during disasters that occurred in the 19605, disasters that occurred in the 1960s, the year ss thrasher, for example. but i suspect that the suspect... —— uss thresher. ho

written a forthcoming book entitled putin's wars: nato's flaws and is an analyst with the uk ministry of defencer being with us on the program. your take on what we're seeing on the ground?— program. your take on what we're seeing on the ground? well, nobody knows what's _ seeing on the ground? well, nobody knows what's going _ seeing on the ground? well, nobody knows what's going on, _ seeing on the ground? well, nobody knows what's going on, including - knows what's going on, including kyiv and moscow, i guess. it's all property under, i doubt very much for example that when the ukrainian ministry of defence says the centre of attack is good to be in baku, i suggest not. there's awful lot happening. even —— bakhmut. even the blessed bbc probably doesn't know what's going on. do i? know because i'm not privy to secrets. the war has really started. the phoney drone he wore, if you want to call it that has ended. there will be some real fighting now. it will take weeks before we realise who's winning. they will be a mixture of defense, trench warfare and there will be new things. i think there wi

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the uk ministry of defence gives regular intelligence update which has just come out and there are countriesry and piece our way through some of this. we'rejoined now by natia seskuria, an associate fellow at the royal united services institute, also known as rusi, a defence and security think tank. thank you very much for your time this morning. it is a busy morning and a lot of information coming. for our audience can you try and give us a sense of what we have heard in terms of the mercenary group wagner and what we have heard from vladimir putin? ,, . ~' and what we have heard from vladimir putin? ,, . ,, , ., , and what we have heard from vladimir putin? . . ~' ,, , . ., putin? sure, thank you very much for havint me putin? sure, thank you very much for having me a — putin? sure, thank you very much for having me a good _ putin? sure, thank you very much for having me a good morning. _ putin? sure, thank you very much for having me a good morning. this - putin? sure, thank you very much for having me a good morning. this is i having me a good morning. this is indeed _ having me a good m

now, the uk's ministry of defence, meanwhile, has said that the rebellion is the significant challengepolitical elite in moscow. i've seen sort of reports of- political elite in moscow. i've seen sort of reports of various russian officials fleeing with their families to turkey and other countries . if that proves other countries. if that proves true , then the regime is true, then the regime is definitely on the slide. but we shouldn't kid ourselves . any shouldn't kid ourselves. any rebellion would get rid of putin. i don't think the regime of kleptocratic thuggery is going anywhere anytime soon. prigozhin is the founder of the whether— prigozhin is the founder of the wagner mercenary group . so we're wagner mercenary group. so we're eetthhe— wagner mercenary group. so we're petthhe e— wagner mercenary group. so we're petthmo e ph— wagner mercenary group. so we're getting a bit overzealous. and the ether— getting a bit overzealous. and the other side— getting a bit overzealous. and the other side of— getting a bit overzealous. and the other side of it is if someone did- the other sid

to this, particularly the ministry of eenenoe— particularly the ministry of eenenoe in— particularly the ministry of defence in the— particularly the ministry of defence in the uk is one of the big obviously, discussion pointe— the big obviously, discussion noinoe oo— the big obviously, discussion noinie on one— the big obviously, discussion points of the day. mortgage niee— points of the day. mortgage nnoee ann— points of the day. mortgage rates and interest rates rising ann— rates and interest rates rising and non— rates and interest rates rising and non ane— rates and interest rates rising and how are people coping and nine—ann- and how are people coping and nnao—ann onel what can government and the banne— what can government and the nnoie—ni- what can government and the. nnoie—no pennie. banks do? yeah, lots of people, lots of people saying that, ron says there seems to be no mention the in mention about the cost in changing mortgage changing your mortgage legal cost only adding to cost survey fees only adding to your overall debt. then you have to insurance or the to pay insurance or pay off the remaining mortgage at the end of the we've also had some the

the ministry of defence here in in the uk provided an intelligence update earlier this morning, sayingnews rt.“ that's theo chikomba, our news reporter oarsrae— chikomba, our news reporter oarsrae ane— chikomba, our news reporter outside the russian embassy this morning. — outside the russian embassy this morning. nov— outside the russian embassy this morning. now breaking news as near.— morning. now breaking news as vea- nearers— morning. now breaking news as well. reuters is— morning. now breaking news as well. reuters is now reporting anar— well. reuters is now reporting rnar roassran— well. reuters is now reporting that russian helicopters have opened— that russian helicopters have opened fire— that russian helicopters have opened fire on— that russian helicopters have opened fire on wagner group. opened fire on the wagner group. so opened fire on the wagner group. so joining— opened fire on the wagner group. so joining ne— opened fire on the wagner group. so joining ne ro— opened fire on the wagner group. so joining me to discuss this verv— so joining me to discuss this very ,— so

of talk about russia. not enough talk about us right here in the uk. i think i'm joined now by the former adviser to the ministry of defence, nato and the united nationse wagner group walked into rostov on don, which is walked into rostov on don, which m mo— walked into rostov on don, which m mo military— walked into rostov on don, which is the military and— walked into rostov on don, which is the military and the monsoon— is the military and the logistics headquarter for the mono— logistics headquarter for the entire operation— logistics headquarter for the entire operation of the russian m— entire operation of the russian m mo— entire operation of the russian war in the south— entire operation of the russian war in the south of ukraine. so mm— war in the south of ukraine. so mm m— war in the south of ukraine. so mm m mo— war in the south of ukraine. so this is the moment going back to the this is the moment going back to me nonto— this is the moment going back to me noon on— this is the moment going back to the battle of waterloo , when the the battle of waterloo, when the duke— the battle of waterloo, when the duke of— the battle of waterloo, when