who are the ghost soldiers in ukraine right now? >> in ukraine, no ghost soldiers. they are russian volunteers. on russian television, you can see. every political leader of the party doe clairing. >> do you agree there are thousands of russian soldiers no. by the way, even the head of general staff of ukraine said we don't have any evidence that the fighting. >> soldiers. >> this is fantasy. he is in fantasy land living. >> there seems to be abundant evidence, abundant evidence that these men are there. why don't you admit to that? >> sorry. you know, nobody knows, nobody showed the images. nobody proved only two servicemen, military men whom they are blaming to be part of russian army. two. not 12,000. but even this two is under the question because nobody denies that the russian volunteers are fighting there. >> that's true. nobody denies that. but russian -- >> not from the states. >> not from the states and no regular forces are fighting. >> no evidence of russian ukraine? >> well, i think that that again has been disproven by what we have all seen with our own

interesting ukraine -- in eastern ukraine, at least 10 people have been told in the latest fighting - have been killed in the latest fighting. moscow says that ukraine is preparing a military offensive, something kiev categorically denies. let's get the business news now. starting with a record order for airbus. for 250 a320order aircraft. the deal is worth around $26.5 billion. it's a more fuel-efficient aircraft and will allow the company to keep its fares low. reporter: making aviation history again. india's low-cost carrier indigo has ordered the largest single batch of new aircraft from airbus. it wants to hundred 50 single aisle -- wants 250 single-aisle a320 planes. shortly after the sector's biggest order of the time. india has ordered 530 aircraft as it builds towards its goal of 1000 jets. so far, they have all been airbus a320 planes. the neo is a more fuel-efficient version and has become the fastest selling jetliner in history. ceo,ding to indigo's saving on energy will allow more low-cost fares while also helping the airliner to continue to expand. indiaer: let's stay wi

i think that we spoke about the ukraine and there are 1.3 million displaced in the ukraine. it is not that well-known. war.e are impacted by the leadership matters. it does not mean we have to have the same tactical script. if you look at the strength of the institutions, values, and the common vision that we had it, it is act up with consultation and figuring out how to go forward. not been the vigorous consultation in this period, until recent. it is necessary to ensure the strength of our relationship. all of our administration's have had it. -- administrations have had it. until present, not vigorous. it is needed. that leads us to the next part of the conversation and i would like to go to you on this. is there something from 2013 where people felt let down? >> i will not comment on what my president said. moderator: a true diplomat. i want you to respond to paula's point and whether there has been enough consultation with european allies. almost do notthey need an ambassador anymore because the relationship is strong. you would be out of a job and we like to have you i

by the way, ukraine hasn't made a choice you said puttip wants to make ukraine a failed state.we look at dondon, when we look at crimea, when we look at the fact that these places hav mr. mcgranian admits to that or not. we look at the level of chaos and the legal of corruption right now in the ukrainian government, you have written about it about the oligarchs where the corruption doesn't seem to be any different to the corruption under mr. yanukovych. isn't it already a failed state? putin has won? hasn't he? let him answer first. in the international arena when you ask me about something and russia a starts talking stephanie. corruption is one of the biggest problems with ukraine like in russia as well. wiadopt anti-corruption law and established bureau. the investigation in september this year. readopt a lot of draft laws to provide more information for journalists to stop corruption on the budget procurement and, of course, it's not -- >> good intentions but as things stand, your country is split. the russian soldiers in country. >> our country is not split. >> partially o

ukraine,ges in eastern police and protesters battled each other in kiev. and then an explosion behind the leased lines -- behind police lines. what appears to have been a grenade. the scenes of wounded and injured were reminiscent of ukraine's revolution a year ago. this time, it was the country cost new pro-european government -- the country's new pro-european government facing off against activists. you can see the line of police is pushing back. there have been clashes between the demonstrators, then the police moved back. tumult inside parliament matched the chaos outside. emotions reached a crescendo as deputies tried to prevent a vote on proposed constitutional changes. they said it was treason to consider any autonomy for the russian-backed regions in the east. but in the end, supporters of the peace plan prevailed. the amendments passed their first reading. authorities blame the violence outside parliament on the ultranationalist freedom party. resident petro poroshenko promised swift and -- president petro poroshenko promised swift and decisive ac

ironically, instead of keeping ukraine in moscow's orbit, putin's actions have actually pushed ukrainerther west. the country appears finally willing to properly tackle corruption -- and is keener than ever to join nato. and it's even now becoming a haven for anti-putin opposition activists, who are keen to see their very own maidan revolution in russia itself. >> herman obukhov comes from russia. here he is on the maidan, otherwise known as kiev's independence square. several exhibitions recall the events of the pro-european revolution of february, 2014, that ousted the pro-moscow government. the people had had enough of corruption, mismanagement, and economic stagnation. obukhov believes the revolution instilled fear in the rulers in moscow. and that is why they responded by forcing ukraine into a war. herman obukhov, dissident: moscow started to show to russian people that there is no way of going this way like maidan. >> he left russia in the summer of 2014 to take up the political fight against moscow, as he'd done once before. obukhov was a dissident even in the soviet era, when

katty: still a lot of rumblings of violence there in ukraine. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on the program, first it was the iowa fair. now it is jury duty. donald trump is drawing a crowd wherever he goes. what would his policies actually mean for america? presidents of the chinese city of tianjin have been showing their frustration after the huge chemical explosion on wednesday. relatives of the 64 missing firefighters have been demanding information. anger and sadness in tengion. -- tianjin. local residents of the blast site demand compensation and answers from the government, saying many of their homes were ruined by the explosion. back," theyes shout. >> so far the government has not given us any reasonable response, and they have not been paying attention to what we have to say. at the moment we feel all over the place. reporter: smoke still rises from the blast site. now the center of a major cleanup operation. there is concern that chinese work safety rules may have been breached. chemical facilities are requir

stephen: that's gulliver cragg, speaking to us from ukraine. claire: we will move on to today's stock markets. it has been a bit calmer today after the recent turmoil. stephen: quite a bit of a roller coaster week, but the european market are showing gains. all of the european markets of, over -- markets up, over 2% in some cases. the game is in those companies hurt by the -- the gain is in those companies hurt by the chinese drop. in asia, a sweep of gains there as well. the shanghai composite up at the close by over 5%. some signs of a bounceback there. inns too for the nikkei tokyo and the hang seng as well. let's have a look at some of the day's other business headlines. a french oil company is to sell a gas -- it is part of a cost-cutting at the firm over global oil prices. company says sales in china are dropping, but by much less than a year earlier. chinese sales fell 2% in the last financial year compared to 23% the year before. overall profits of the company are down 15%. facebook is creating a virtual assistant to rival apple's siri.

and ukraine is one of them.ut we have to make it clear to him that the territorial integrity of ukraine, that's non-negotiable. you can't invade a country, you can't give to russia the right to interfere and intervene in the internal affairs of these states in its area. i was with the president of bulgaria. he said, this is just crazy. he said, we're acting like putin has the right to come in and tell us what to do. just because he is a bigger country. that's what the 20th century was all about. we said borders were sacrosanct. we pledged during the cold war that we have prevent this kind of thing. we set up nato to prevent that. we brought new members into nato. we have to stand on our commitments. that's essential to the rule of law worldwide. >> radek sikorski, how did we get here? i think there was a sense that putin had annexed crimea, which triggered reaction in the west. the west imposed sanctions on russia. we thought this would deter putin and some putin from more adven tourism. what happened? >> presid

i think that we spoke about the ukraine and there are 1.3 million displaced in the ukraine. it is not that well-known. war.e are impacted by the leadership matters. it does not mean we have to have the same tactical script. if you look at the strength of the institutions, values, and the common vision that we had it, it is act up with consultation and figuring out how to go forward. not been the vigorous consultation in this period, until recent. it is necessary to ensure the strength of our relationship. all of our administration's have had it. -- administrations have had it. until present, not vigorous. it is needed. that leads us to the next part of the conversation and i would like to go to you on this. is there something from 2013 where people felt let down? >> i will not comment on what my president said. moderator: a true diplomat. i want you to respond to paula's point and whether there has been enough consultation with european allies. almost do notthey need an ambassador anymore because the relationship is strong. you would be out of a job and we like to have you i

was his expectation that ethnic russians in ukraine and eastern ukraine and south ukraine would be meeting russian tanks with flowers. instead he met very steep resistance, and that's the reason why ukraine actually managed to survive, and the western powers had no choice but to gradually come into an agreement with ukrainian government about supplying it with small weapons and other means of resistance. >> host: garry kasparov, in your view why do you think the west has been reluctant to be more aggressively anti-putin? >> guest: actually that's why i wrote the book. because, you know, it's like in the game of chess, you know? you look at the position, and before you understand, you know, what's happened in the game, you have to go many moves before. you have to analyze the game ideally from the very beginning. and to understand what kind of mistakes you make. so i think it's important for us to look at the events starting in '89, '9, 0 '93. that's where the book actually began talking about the collapse of the soviet empire, the fall of the berlin wall, the freedom this eastern europe --

ukraine is one of them.we have to make it clear to him that the territorial integrity of ukraine is negotiable. you can't give to russia the right to interfere and intervene in the internal affairs of the states in its area. i was with the period and he said it's crazy. we are acting like putin has the cite to tell us what to do because he is a bigger country. that's what the 20th century was all about. we said borders were there. we set up nato to prevent that and brought new members. we have to stand on the commitments. that is essential to the rule of law worldwide. >> how did we get here? there was a sense that putin had triggered a reaction in the west and the west came and we thought it would deter put skpip this would in some way stop putin. what happened? >> president putin spoke of ukraine as an artificial country already at the nato summit in bucharest in 2008. we know the plans for crimea and ukraine have been laid down before. president putin largely misspent the oil boom's money, but he has inve

that's what they tried to do in ukraine. what you try to do in ukraine, and where it can be preferable for everyone. a european nation fighting for its future. >> yesterday ukraine warned russia taking more land. do you anticipate more land grabs there? >> unfortunately, looking at the developments in georgia or you don't have a war at this moment. there's not much of a hope. in georgia on a daily basins, as you said, russia will get more and more under the occupation, behind the occupation. they are doing it on a small scale but on a daily basis. georgia is a small country, in a small territory. as the path continues, we'll face an unfortunate development. they have made it away from the main highway connecting east and west. they may come close to the edge when they can block the country and cut it in two. >> the southern parts are barely 30 miles from your capital tbilisi, and during the war in 2008 russian troops made it to the suburbs. do you have any defense against russia if it decides to move further south and get cl

it means ukraine's debts will reduce bid nearly $4 billion. it is meant to unlock money. they are in a deep recession and they are in face of a default. >> after five months of arduous faux and historic restructuring deal that could shave 20% off ukraine bonds and delay debt replacements, the cash strapped kiev accord paves the way for financial assistance from the international monetary fund, money that ukraine needs to stay afloat. the fund has said it won't unlike a lifeline for kiev until their debts are on a sustainible path. >> so we have a deal that achieves all three of the i.m.f. targets. it means they've pushed out, there is no payments for three months. that postpones $11.6 billion. >> despite the jubilation, questions remain over whether ukraine's debt mountain is sustainible. ukraine owes $18 billion u.s., a reduction of almost $4 billion still leaves over $14 billion more left to pay. once the i.m.f. program ceases, kiev could face a fresh cash shortage which may require another debt repayment extension. there are also question marks hanging over outstanding

up on the program: one program i policeman is kills others are injured as a nationalist program in ukraine turns violent. televised transgressions in china as 1 97 are jailed because of their actions on social media. >>> and trafficking the traffickers, on the trail with peruvian police as they track drug smugglers. hello there thank you for joining us. the eu has called an emergency meeting for two weeks time to thrash out a exon policy to deal witexon policy tocommon policy g policy of refugees. each country deals with the growing problem in its own way. meanwhile, the refugees keep coming. picked up by the coast guard over the weekend, all those on board were collected from 70 operations over the weekend, including from lesbos samos and kos. >>> following last week's incident in which 71 bodies were discovered in the back ever a lorry on the hard shoulder of a motor way. >>> growing number of people trying to reach western owrp an. traveling from the capital of hungary, budapest, to try to reach germany. word there that authorities were separating refugees. let's bring you live pictures

ukraine fought hard to reach a deal. the remainder will be restructured, though that will involve slightly higher interest rate. >> this is what we call a win-win situation. the creditors have met our demands. we will receive substantial financial relief and will be able to get back to the stable economic life faster. >> the conflict has weighed heavily on ukraine's economy. moscow insists on full debt repayment. ukraine's prime minister remains firm. >> under no circumstances will russia receive that are conditions than other creditors. it is their decision. accept our conditions or you will never receive better conditions. but if ukraine doesn't lead -- repay russia, a could lead to more trouble. they can't support other countries with more sovereign states. confidence seems to be returning after the volatility of shares swinging upward. china's leading industries -- indices saw a five-day losing streak. about four years yesterday, u.s. stock markets are up more than 2% again and we have our markets man in new york. we

i've seen russia occupying ukraine. i've seen russia adopting laws that outlaw homosexuality and racism flourishing in the country. and recently, i've seen russia destroying western food. it sounds to me a little bit naive when we are speaking about these games opening up russia. but if you are saying so, let me give you this question. what was the benefit of the olympics? how did it change russia to a better country in sochi? lisa: we were discussing that before the panel. those of us that attended really fell in love with russia. unfortunately, the week after, all of our opinions that we had formed changed again, back, even worse, because of the invasion of ukraine. so all the goodwill that they built up, unfortunately, i think, went away. it was unfortunate for russia. but i do think during the games they had an opportunity to change a lot of people's opinions and move forward, yet they chose to revert. many people said it was already in the planning, that they knew they were going to do this after the games. i don't

eastern ukraine nine people died after soldiers and separatists exchanged fire on monday, the latestimed at withdrawing heavy weapons from the front line have broken down. and we have more. >> reporter: the remains of a family home in a ukrainian controlled village south of donetsk. it took just 20 minutes to reduce this street to rubble. the ukraine military said two people were killed as russian backed rebels shelled the village. >> translator: a man 30 years old and woman of 22 were killed, 6 others wounded, the most serious injuries were sustained by a mother with a child. >> reporter: yet the separatists are blaming ukraine forces for the shelling. this part of the country has born the brunt of several attacks in resent days and continues to be sporadic fighting despite a ceasefire that has been more or less in place since february. as the attacks increase moscow is publically accusing ukraine military of planning a renewed offensive against pro-russian separatists. >> translator: we worry about the latest developments. it was like that last august when ukraine soldiers received

and ukraine, a new safe haven for the russian opposition. i can remember being quite shocked when i once heard how an elderly estonian lady had fond memories of one of the nazi soldiers who had occupied estonia in world war ii. he had very kindly given her a red ribbon to tie in her hair, instead of the shoelace she was

in moldova, ukraine, we all know. georgia was 10 as the one country alone trying to prove its course and trying to prove we deserved a chance. and we can cite lots of examples like that different projects that the world has started the last 20 years, nato, the european union windows country from falling apart and georgia is still there. it stays on the same path. we are not going anywhere and we will fight to the end. i don't want to make a long speech or because i will be more willing to answer your questions and address the issues you're interested in and you want to hear georgia perspective to those issues. not just a couple more arguments that i want to make for the reason why i'm here today and we are going to different capitals of the world. searching for answers and providing arguments for the kind of work that georgia is engaged in, and the past six years. we can to washington with a capital agenda, double agenda. one is to strengthen our partnership with the united states, to have more tangible results out of

coming from georgia, the country, i have seen russia occupy ukraine based on ukraine.'ve seen russia adopting laws that ban homosexuality and racism flourishing in the country. recently like last week i seen russia destroying western food. it sounds to me a little bit naÏve when we are speaking about these games opening up russia. if you say so, let's give you this question, what was the benefit of the olympics? how did it change russia to a better country in so cheap? >> we were discussing that right before the panel. he saw the media goes so favorable at the end of the sochi olympic games and i think those of us that attended really fell in love with russia and fortunately, the week after all of our opinions we have formed changed again back even worse because of the invasion of ukraine. so while the goodwill that they built up and fortunately i think went away and it was unfortunate for russia. but i do think during the games they had an opportunity to change a lot of people's opinions and move forward yet they chose to revert. many people said it was already in the

we have to focus on what we have -- ukraine. i want ukraine to be healthy, vibrant, and good. we areaine, germany -- sending f-22's -- the newest fighters, the best and the world. we want to stand alongside of them, but why are we leading the fight? putin hates obama. i think we would get along great

ukraine, we know. then there was georgia standing as one country alone, trying to prove its course and that we deserved a chance. we can cite a lot of examples like that of different projects that the world had started over the last 20 years, when those countries were falling apart and georgia stayed on the same path. desperate not to go anywhere, we will fight to the end. i don't want to make a long speech here. i would be more willing to answer your questions, here your interests on georgian perspectives to those issues. argumentsle of more that i want to make for the reason why i am here today and why we are going to different capitals of the world. searching for answers and providing arguments for the kind of work that georgia is engaged in. we came to washington to strengthen our partnership with the united states. to have more tangible results. to have the people in georgia seeing the nature of the results of this partnership. to have georgian military even more engaged. and at the same time to s

it was supposed to end the fightings between ukraine's army and russian backed separatists. since then there has been deadly violence in the east. the new law has to pass a final vote later this year. nadim baba al jazeera. >> the united nations has condemned the handing down of a three jeer jail sentence to -- to three year generate sentence to three al jazeera journalists. the spokesman for the secretary-general says he will continue to protest for their release. they were convicted of crimes they and al jazeera deny. >> the secretary-general has brought up the case of these journalists and other incarcerated journalists whether they be in egypt or other places. sometimes quiet diplomacy sometimes more vocal diplomacy. he will continue sometimes quietly and sometimes more vocally. >> meanwhile two israeli journalists working for vice news have been charged by a turkish judge as being part of i.s.i.l. arrested on august 29th. they had been filming clashes between the pkk group and the turkish authorities. >>> chinese authorities have arrested 197 people for spreading online

ukraine is obviously much harder. moldova, georgia, ukraine, these are are not nato territories. these are not covered by article five and it is much trickier. the u.s. and nato put forward of view that we would spend more time and attention on those partner states coming out of the summit. i think that is important i think it is important personally, i think it is important to provide that to forces and some special operations training should be a part of that. but by and large, our efforts should be focused on sticking to that article five. ms. dozier: but that is working by, through, and with another organization. mr. vickers: well, russia is doing a proxy warfare. and then shift back to proxy work, but this proxy war is not just in ukraine and the territories -- but also that is in the middle east as well, and that is the conflict we are in. there is actually a command within the nato structure. there are people from a thrust the nato countries going to work every day that are in training. there is classroom training and field training that takes place. so i do want to make s

i've seen russia occupying ukraine. i've seen russia adopting laws that outlaw homosexuality and racism flourishing in the country. recently, i've seen russia destroying western food. it sounds to me a little bit naive when we are speaking about these games opening up russia. if you are saying so, let me give you this question. what was the benefit of the olympics? how did it change russia to a better country in sochi> -- in sochi> lisa: we were still discussing that before the panel. those of us that attended really fell in love with russia. unfortunately, the week after, all of our opinions that we had formed changed again, back, even worse, because of the invasion of ukraine. so all the goodwill that they built up, unfortunately, i think, went away. it was unfortunate for russia. but i do think during the games they had an opportunity to change a lot of people's opinions and move forward, yet they chose to revert. many people said it was already in the planning, that they knew they were going to do this after the gam

lasta, which moscow seized year from ukraine. putin accompanied an exhibition examining a 10th century byzantium ship. hey, i thought you were going to dive down with me. i recommend you try afterwards. it is very interesting. summary objects in the seabed. you can see very clearly. n spoke to reporters about a recent increase in violence in eastern ukraine, which he blamed on kivevc. but he remained optimistic that the cease-fire would eventually bear fruit. i hope therein: will not be direct clashes. with regard to the minsk agreement, i think there is no alternative for resolving the situation. and peace will without any doubt prevail in the end. i would ask minimize the losses by the time we reach that peace. oliver: as for any controversy over his visit to the disputed territory, the russian president was adamant it was what the locals wanted. president putin: the future of crimea was decided by people who live on its territory. they voted to live with russia. tookr: the annexation place after crimea and sebastopol voted to

there's a conflict in ukraine and greece has ongoing debt problems. we are asking the questions what is next for europe? what direction should the european union beheading? you can take part in the discussion using the hash tag what next europe. we have been speaking to ordinary europeans in germany. in an exclusive survey, we asked who do you think sets europe's political direction? reporter: the european flags there's 12 stars with her many more players on the stage. the nationstates, vigor and more powerful ones like germany, and crisis hit states like greece. we asked the german people who they think sets the agenda. the survey showed 39% of germans believe that cb has the most influence. 36% say it is the european commission. 34% say germany set the agenda. surprisingly, almost 1/5 of those surveyed say countries like greece run the show. it seems germany is very divided over who is in charge in the european union. anchor: recent crises have shown just as much division among european members. keeping 28 different languages together is a tall orde

' ukraine's armyd russian backed separatists. these scenes in the capital are a reminder of just how controversial it is. nadim baba, al jazeera. >>> authorities have arrested 197 individuals for spreading an online rumor about a stock market crash. those found guilty could face three years in jail. adrian brown has more from beijing. >> on state tv journalist confesses his guilt. his crime: to report that the government was planning to end its efforts to rescue the market. on the day that article was published the shn shanghai share index suffered its biggest loss. >> we are going to be in an extremely volatile market. >> also disgraced accused of insider trading. borrowing to buy shares. china's legal system relies heavily on confessions. in total, 197 people have reportedly been punished for spreading rumors about the recent stock market falls, china's devaluing currency and the failing explosions in tienjin. instead it's been focusing on thursday's big military parade commemorating the 70th anniversary of japan's surrender. p

no one in ukraine or europe suspected russia would attack ukraine and then annex crimea. it was a strategickical surprise for us. we are still drugling with the surprise and cranes can see that our close neighbors and even brother russians have attacked us. also for europe and the for the rest of the world, especially america to understand how to deem with the situation in the political terms. >> the report says that there is a growing presence of russian troops. when did building escalation start, as you see it? >> >> well, the recent escalation about which the report actually is has started more or less one week ago when we have noted that more and more russian soldiers and also so-called volunteers, they have been crossing border between ukraine and russia in the eastern part of ukraine and starting from the moment we have seen that almost every single day we have more numerous attacks. last week it was more than 167 attacks, the biggest number of escalation and biggest number of attacks since the minsk agreement. three civilians were killed in mariupol during the atta

>> i'm from ukraine and then i came to the country nine years ago. when i was four months pregnant pregnant -- in a home an my father and brother died so difficult for my mom. we couldn't stop crying, and we decided better for her to go back to ukraine even, though, it is hard time there. in russia, ukraine, but i decided to stay because i'm a citizen an i wanted my son to be born here, and so that's how i became homeless because money -- funeral, and it was really difficult. it was difficult to go to shelter and i went to public shelter first, and i just was very stressful l. >> i can only imagine. and -- >> he's fine just fox five family is growing. so mark is how old? >> two months and three weeks. >> and he's very quiet baby. [laughter] he's just, you know, been playing a lot with my husband, to have him, and my husband in ukraine, so he's a citizen there, must be there. he's to the country and that is why he asked me to wear the ukrainian flag to support ukraine people. and -- >> denise are stories typical like what we're hearing with viktoriya

on russia, ukraine relations that is something very specific. my only argument, and i understand you would be totally unsatisfied with it, is that it is not through the world cup that we will solve that issue. if we are a neighbor, we as the west, politically or literally, what else can we do? the west has been failing in securing ukraine's security globally since the beginning of crisis. so it is more about our own general inability to find a solution to secure ukraine's territorial integrity. it is small issue for us, it's a big issue for russia. i think on that we have been a little bit naive of the capacity of the west to resist on something where globally, given the current world context, for the u.s. and even for europe, it is not a major issue where for russia it is key issue. for russia the capacity to do whatever it wants almost in ukraine just because it is mr. putin and he has popular support. so i think that, i mean trying to block russia having cup because of ukrainian issue doesn't give us any political solution. it doesn't send an

ukraine's western-backed president scolded protesters for attacking ukraine over russia. >> translator: it is very sad that some members of the article amount tear coalition attacked the president and supreme commander in chief of their own country instead of directing their burgeoning energy to counter the external enemy. >> reporter: russia has strengthened its hold on the east and the war has raged on with more than 6,000 killed since april last year. and two cease-fire agreements in tatters. >> we call on all ukrainians no matter their affiliation or organization to respect law and order. >> reporter: nato allies worry they could be russia's next targets. the u.s. military is bolstering its forces in the region sending predator drones to latvia over the weekend. an f-22s to germany late last week. all part of an effort to reassure european allies that the u.s. will deter further aggression by russian president vladimir putin. >> it seems the direction that he wants to take them, one or more confrontation and we simply have to check that. >> the predator deployment is temporary. the

ukraine is much harder. i was asked about mozilla before, and asked moldova love, georgia, these are not new territories. the put forward a view that we would spend more time on partner the --coming out of summit, it is important to provide defensive weapons from the u.s. to the ukrainian forces. and some special operations training should be a part of that. by and large, efforts should be on the future we can stick to the article with the nato states. kim: working through other , -- or mores direct? mike: russia does work through , and wherethey can those proxies on the verge of losing, the work with -- they work with conventional forces. the nation back to proxy war. oris not just in ukraine those around the former survey union -- former soviet union, it is in the middle east as well. steve: special operations across the nato countries is unprecedented. there is actually a command within the native structure -- nato structure, there is a headquarters, people going to , fieldery day training training that t

the debate today is should we arm ukraine? yeah, i think we should arm ukraine. not fight for us, but let them fight for themselves. the way we brought down the iron curtain, there's a can you feel wonderful picture that stick necessary my mind with the reagan era, there's a coal mining town in russia or the soviet union, they had a television set with rabbit ears and there were 30 or 40 coal miners around and they were watching "dallas" which was a tv drama at the time where everybody had big hair, big cars, big jewels. and i later met a eastern european leader and i said, what is the moment for you? he said, oh, when we all got a television and we watched "dallas." i said why? he said, well, you know, before that, we would compare our lives and what we had in our lives to when our parents had and what we have is better than what our parents had. but once we saw dallas, we compared ourselves not with our parents, but with you and we wanted what you had. i think the technology revolution today is not the tv with the rabbit ears, but it's the internet. and it's te

because of the invasion of ukraine. and so all of the good will they built up unfortunately went away. and it was you know, unfortunate for russia. but i do think during the games, they had an opportunity to change a lot of people's opinions and to move forward yet they chose to revert. many people said it was in the planning that they knew they were going to do this after the games. i don't know about that. to your question, we can only hope that you know, i'm not -- we have no scientific proof that it's going to help any. but is it worth trying? i mean, better to just close it off and say, we're not going to deal with these people because they are going to keep going? i don't know. i think they did, the people that i talked to had brought in their -- the citizens, okay, the individual citizens that took part in the olympic games benefited. i can't say that putin changed. i don't think that's the case. but i think the citizens benefited. >> if i can follow on that. in terms of russia with a country of racism and issues

the six month ceasefire in ukraine is looking shakier by the day. nine people are reportedly dead after an all night shelling exchange. it came down after a breakdown of the latest talks. sonia gallego has the story. . >> took just 20 minutes to reduce this street to rubble. ukraine military said two people were killed as russian back rebelled shelled the village. >> a man 30 years old and a woman of 22 were killed. six others were wounded. the most of serious injuries were those sustained by a mother with a child. >> reporter: yet the separatists are blaming ukraine forces for shelling. this part of the country has born the attacks in recent days. there continues to be sporadic fighting and that's despite a tenuous ceasefire that's been more or less in place since february. moscow is publicly accusing ukraine military of an offensive against pro-russian separatists. >> we're worried about the lathest developments. i.t. was like that last august when ukrainian soldiers received the order to attack. it was also like that this past january when there

i don't want to have to return to ukraine. these are bad times.here's so much corruption, total corruption. and the mobilization. things like that just drive you away. reporter: vova from the bicycle workshop stops by regularly to keep up with events at home. it's easier to endure bad news in company. youtube has become a primary source of information. it shows bombs exploding. and this week fighting flared up again. no one here has faith anymore in the minsk protocol. when the conflict worsens, more refugees come. the head of the "ukrainian world", mateusz kramek, says the center is already preparing for the next wave of fugitives. mateusz knows how the young men feel. >> russia and ukraine are closely tied. there are family and ethnic bonds. these men just don't want to have to shoot at their own brothers and cousins. reporter: vladimir is tense. russian is his mother tongue, but he's for the ukrainian side. separatists have put him under massive pressure -- threatening him, but also making him feel guilty. one sent him a text saying you can't r

>> you look at credit default swaps, right now in ukraine investors think that ukraine is more likelydefault on its debt than greece. you'll get bond yields, the two year, investors become more about ukrainian bonds. the debt is still trading at about $.50 over the dollar. that is still very distressed debt. concern about of whether investors will get paid. the ukrainians want to keep that $7.5 billion on the island. they want to get more from the imf. boy do they need the help. with the economy there any war waging in the east. it is reason to do a deal. it is nowhere close. jonathan: thank you very much for joining us. tv, amid on bloomberg new signs of a china's slowdown, the e-commerce giant report earnings today. they lost more than $90 billion since november. theinutes into this section dax is lower. .he selloff continues in europe ♪ jonathan: good morning and welcome back to bloomberg tv. it is jobs day here in the u k. the unemployment figure executives to it 5.9%. the data will be released at 9:30 u.k. time. exitove complete pearson's from business publishing after selling th

flight mh-17 went down over ukraine last july killing everyone onboard. pro-rebel russians seem suspected. i spoke to julia in moscow and she told us reaction from the kremlin. -- a: there hasn't been any information also. but moscow is likely to stick to the old line and wait until after the official investigation into the crash -- until the crash is complete. and allegations it was a russian-made missile. moscow denies any responsibility into the crash and said when the ukrainian army and moscow has two versions what happened to that plane, one of the versions is that it was shot down by ukrainian fighter jets. and the second version it was shot down from the ground by ukraine army. but it was dismissed by some experts. but russia's foreign minister, he commented on information last week about this could have been a russian-made missile and he said while it's easy to establish where this missile was made and which country it belongs to but according to him that hasn't yet been done. so moscow is ready to dismiss the latest allegations and wait until oct

arrested andeven hackers are thought to be in ukraine or perhaps russia.e more million in stock such as boeing, panera brain -- canary bread and hewlett-packard. accused of dealing more than 150,000 press releases. bread, and hewlett-packard. former white house chief economist austen goolsbee has a message for the federal reserve, take your time. earlier on bloomberg tv he was asked whether he thought the federal reserve would start raising interest rates next month. i think the fed has been itching, wanting to raise rates and have wanted to for a long time so they will find a way to do it. i don't think it is warranted. i think the economy is not growing that fast. china is slowing down, europe is a disaster comes to what is the big race to speed up? federal reserve policymakers have been signaling they would raise rates for the first time since 2006. there is no sign that global oil end.-- glut is near an output last month was the most in three years. iran played a big role pumping the most since 2012. the price of oil is now at its lowest level since ma

economy, ukraine is eventually going to collapse.at what's happened in the rest of the world, the chinese markets, all of the refugees flooding into europe, the europeans are not going to be able to invest in ukraine, if they wanted to, they don't have the money and they don't have the bandwidth. at the end of the day, i think that ukraine will end up not being a member of nato or the european union. tom: also not a subject that anybody cares about so far. the presidential candidates are not talking about it. people go it's their problem over, there not our problem. so we basically sit back and watch. god knows what's going to happen in that part of the world. >> the problem with that is there could be miscalculations and putin could be a desperate guy, but watching that donald trump press conference and speech, i was struck by a couple of things. one, president obama he criticizes americans calling him crazy, warmongers, on the other hand, trump is rangry as our opponents overseas. almost like one guy has his elbows out at home, and

having013, we have been conflict in ukraine, which was made. off by the events commentatorsome saying that we are in the state of a cold war, which is a comparison i don't like very much. but what i think is that we can learn a lot from what is going on in football and what is exley going on in russia right now. that,are certain things when you look at the way football is structured, the way football operates, that it reflects things going on elsewhere in society. i give you a few examples. when you're a meeting kicked iden -- when euro mad kicked off, in an economic base, we had the sanctions on russia which affected the ruble last christmas immensely. that ruble crisis had a deep impact on the way football is being played right now in the , as the rublee --shed, players and kosher and coaches and specialists playing in russia all got paid and dollars. as a prism on how the rest of society and the rest of the economy sort of deals with this issue. another thing that has come a very recently is the fact that they russian football union has and