the associate editor recently sat down with the vice prims of the ukraine to talk about the ukraine's top reform -- top frorn priorities, including strategic defense the >> i think in this regard i am on board with the government as such. we have just recently developed a very concrete and i think realistic plan of reforms before the end of the year. there are several major priorities, and that would be starting the privatization, and we have already started it, a very open privatization that is of huge importance. also clear tate-owned enterprises, market stabilization of the country that is very much important for all of us. also we are focusing on public administration reform and that's where part of my direct responsibilities lie. so therefore i'm hoping that we will be able to deliver on this side starting with this reform because it's a huge undertaking that will require a lot of effort from all the agencies and my job is to coordinate interagency efforts. so -- but, but, that's besides the association agreement. but that's a plan. so it's nothing additional. >> part of the refo

this is ukraine's largest port.ut $40 million per month was being stolen by local mafia, local officials, and national politicians. to try and fix that, marushevska will soon inaugurate a new customs terminal with more automation and streamlined procedures. but when you fight corruption, corruption fights back. >> the simplification of the procedures faced a great resistance, and even persecution from the central government. it's war of past and future. we want future to happen, and they want to live in the past. i think we are fighting two wars-- one war inside the country, and the other war in the east of the country. >> reporter: you've got enemy forces this way and right about that way. so you're fighting, kind of, on two sides. >> yeah. >> reporter: 22-year-old lieutenant jan fidrea is a platoon commander in ukraine's other war, on the front lines near donetsk. we are 350 miles east of odessa. they fight in trenches against an enemy 1,500 feet away. >> those woods in front of us, they're shooting at us from the

ukraine and russia have agreed donetsk should eventually reintegrate into ukraine. but everyone we spoke to rejected that. would you ever be able to go back to ukraine? >> ( translated ): a lot of blood was spilled. many people died. graduates of this school and other schools are now in the army. for what? to go back to ukraine? i think it won't happen. >> reporter: so the training continues. they know their a.k.s by heart. when they're not training, they're proselytizing. the donetsk military is short on recruits. so the girls hand out recruiting flyers to fighting age males- anyone between 18 and 55. katerina also rejects returning to ukraine, because of what this war has forced her to see. >> ( translated ): there was a shell in my apartment block everything was blown up. when someone you know gets injured or killed, it's very hard to keep going. that unwillingness to reunite means donetsk-- with the help of russia-- is becoming more and more autonomous. downtown, city workers whose salaries are paid by russia, look after public gardens. in supermarkets, the shel

nato did not offer membership to ukraine. ukraine was told not now. we understand that is what you would aspire to, you want to be a democracy and a safe country, but you have got to work toward that because you are not there. nato put ukraine on hold. the european union meanwhile was still talking about associating ukraine with the eu and they also said no. i should rephrase that. yanukovych, the president of the ukraine said no, we do not want to associate with the european union and that prompted the eu to say, we are on hold, and that prompted the protests in the ukraine. that is what spurned the whole crisis. i would not say that putin panicked. i would say he saw an opportunity. host: our last caller is greg from florida calling on the independent line. go ahead. caller: mr. ambassador, it is great hearing your thoughts. my question is based around the financial load of each country. what are the ways we can get nato members who do not meet their financial responsibility to meet that standard? magic if there was a formula for this, i am sure we

nato did not offer membership to ukraine. ukraine was told not now.derstand that is what you would aspire to, you want to be a democracy and a safe country, but you have got to work toward that because you are not there. nato put ukraine on hold. the european union meanwhile was still talking about associating ukraine with the eu and they also said no. i should rephrase that. yanukovych, the president of the ukraine said no, we do not want to associate with the european union and that prompted the eu to say, we are on hold, and that prompted the protests in the ukraine. that is what spurned the whole crisis. i would not say that putin panicked. i would say he saw an opportunity. host: our last caller is greg from florida calling on the independent line. go ahead. caller: mr. ambassador, it is great hearing your thoughts. my question is based around the financial load of each country. what are the ways we can get nato members who do not meet their financial responsibility to meet that standard? magic if there was a formula for this, i am sure we would

damien: next to ukraine. the conflict in eastern ukraine may no longer be on the front pages. but the region remains volatile. and over the last few months we've even seen an upsurge in fighting between ukrainian forces and pro-russian separatists. international observers blame both sides. the problem though for the ordinary ukrainians who are trying to set up a free and democratic pro-european state, is that they're fighting on two fronts -- with rebels in the east. and with corruption within their own government in the capital kiev. and when it comes to the country's large reserves of amber, corruption is not only having a devastating effect on the country's finances, but also on the environment. >> it looks like a lunar landscape. dmytro leontijuk has come here to survey the damage. he's an environmental activist and belongs to the pro-european automaidan movement. these craters are the result of amber mining. the company responsible was supposed to have reforested the land, but that clearly hasn't happened. instead, new craters have been formed. dmytro leontijuk: it was pr

the crisis in ukraine and the n annexation of ukraine has been a huge problem. the united states is concerned about these violations of international order. in one area, it is one area we have a common perspective but perhaps for different reasons with china. i think as we think about these relationships for the future again, we have to think about yes, some different perspectives of the personalities but also how we factor in the relationships and don't just see them in this bilateral arrangement. each time we have to think about these broader calculations and given the united states role it is incumbant upon us. >> excellent. last question, you provide an overp overall assessment about how china sees russia but in what ways are various groups like chinese leaders, public interests, the military, general public, perceive russia? do you think they perceive in the same way? or very much divided? this divide is determined why what factors? pro-u.s.? or kind of the more anti-u.s.? or something else. could you you go a little specific to talk about the specific -- h

they started an undeclared war on ukraine. been making noises that russia should control ukraine from moscow the way they did into the soviet union. and in the west, and in the u.s. in particular, this seem as bad thing so the republican platform, sort of unsurprisingly, said the u.s. should provide lethal weapons to ukraine so they can resist putin, they can resist russia. that, it turns out, is the one thing that the trump campaign insisted had to be taken out of the republican platform. that's kind of weird, right? mr. trump's campaign chair lived in ukraine for a while. he lived in kiev. he was working for the pro-putin dictator there, the one who got overthrown, and now the campaign he's running for trump for president is taking the putin side in that fight even as they don't care about anything else in that platform. and in addition to that, the part of ukraine that putin invaded and took over and claimed for himself, donald trump himself said this week that, hey, maybe we should just call that done and consider that to

he's not going into ukraine, just so you understand. you can mark it down, take it down. put it any way you want. >> he's there already. >> he's there in a certain way. but i'm not there. you have obama there. and frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under obama. under the power of nato. he takes crimea. he's sort of, i mean -- >> but you said you might recognize that. >> i'm going to take a look at that. the people of crimea, from what i have heard, would rather be

as far as the ukraine is concerned, it's a mess. that's under the obama administration, with his strong ties to nato. so with all of these strong ties to nato, ukraine is a mess, crimea has been taken. don't blame donald trump with that. we'll do better. we'll have batter relationship with russia. maybe. and having a good relationship with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. >> you said you have no investments in russia. do you owe any money to russian individuals and institutions? >> no. none. the primary thing i did with russia. i bought a house in palm beach out of bankruptcy. it was a bankrupt person. i bought from the the banks. i bought it for about $40 million. i sold it for $100 million to a russian. that was probably five years ago. and, that was primarily it. will i sell -- >> the grand -- >> will i sell -- many years ago. i don't think they're russian. there were various partners. will i sell condos to russians on occasion? probably. i mean, i do that. i have a lot of condos. i do that. i have no relationship to russ

he said there are no russian troops in ukraine.re are russian troops not only in crimea but -- it's well documented. we have two issues. trump seems to be getting his facts from the russian propaganda machine, which is troubling by itself. then there's the other shoe, which is that he generally believes that u.s. policy in that region should be oriented towards a more russian perspective, and that's a fine position to take. it just happens not to be the position of his party or the democratic party or the administration or our allies. >> jeff roggin, something tells me this is not the end of this discussion and you'll keep pressing hard on it. we'll have you back. thank you very much. >>> coming up, have you heard about the debate over the debate? yep, coming up, the nfl calls a personal foul on donald trump. the debate schedule standoff that has them pushing back on the republican presidential candidate. brian stelter with me next. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and

as far as the ukraine is concerned, it's a mess. that's under the obama administration, with his strong ties to nato. so with all of these strong ties to nato, ukraine is a mess, crimea has been taken. don't blame donald trump with that. we'll do better. we'll have batter relationship with russia. maybe. and having a good relationship with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. >> you said you have no investments in russia. do you owe any money to russian individuals and institutions? >> no. none. i bought from the the banks. i bought it for about $40 million. i sold it for $100 million to a russian. that was probably five years ago. and, that was primarily it. will i sell --

he was critical of russia and ukraine alike.is editor says he thinks he was killed for his professional activity. 44-year-old was a russian national but was born in belarus where he worked as a tv and print journalist. he was president of present -- he was critical of president lukashenko's regime and was ofested for his report the absence of a guarded border between belarus and lithuania. he was imprisoned for three months and afforded. also workssheremet for steve media. after disagreeing with moscow's policy and settled in ukraine in 2011. the last few months, more and more journalists have been receiving death threats in the ukraine. interior minister called his killing a brazen murder aimed at destabilizing the country. wasears ago, the founder murdered. experts say this trigger the orange revolution in 2004. catherine: in the united states, donald trump and his presidential election campaign are working to move on from a plagiarism row of the republican party convention. the woman who wrote a speech for melania trump which

damien: next to ukraine. the conflict in eastern ukraine may no longer be on the front pages. but the region remains volatile. and over the last few months we've even seen an upsurge in fighting between ukrainian forces and pro-russian separatists. international observers blame both sides. the problem though for the ordinary ukrainians who are trying to set up a free and democratic pro-european state, is that they're fighting on two fronts -- with rebels in the east. and with corruption within their own government in the capital kiev. and when it comes to the country's large reserves of amber, corruption is not only having a devastating effect on the country's finances, but also on the environment. >> it looks like a lunar landscape. dmytro leontijuk has come here to survey the damage. he's an environmental activist and belongs to the pro-european automaidan movement. these craters are the result of amber mining. the company responsible was supposed to have reforested the land, but that clearly hasn't happened. instead, new craters have been foformed. dmytro leontijuk: it was

>> yes, i think jinping did not approve of putin's behavior in ukraine.it is very clear china has concerns that were adversely affected by having a precedent of using a referendum to separate -- essentially to destroy the territorial integrity of a country russia had formally recognized the territorial integrity before. the areas where china needs action, the united states is a more important player than russia is. in other words, a relationship with russia is not going to solve the taiwan problem in a way beijing would look favorable on and china's behaving in the south china sea in a way that russia cannot be entirely supportive of because russia wants to have that good relationship with vietnam. let's not forget the border crash in 1979 was a function of the japanese having thrown out the china-leaning in cambodia and the fact that vietnam and the soviet union had concluded a defense agreement that jinping thought was a threat to china's interest and wanted to teach vietnam a lesson. it was the closeness of the soviet-japanese relationship at the time

and if elected president trump should just leave putin and the ukraine alone? a question silliy to some that became serious when donald trump was asked about it. >> we'll be looking at that, yeah, we'll be looking. >> reporter: a point reiterated when trump's campaign reportedly changed the republican party platform to take a much more pro-russian view of the ukraine conflict. >> there's a lot of this that is very troubling around this specific issue especially when you consider how substance free most of the other issues areas in the campaign have been but in the ukraine they're taking this firm position and it's not clear why and that's troubling. >> reporter: is it really something? is donald trump really somehow connected to russian political interests, to putin and putin's view of the world because he has an advisor that advised a ukraine candidate six years or is this lots and lots of talk, but in the end as they say in russia, nonsense. >>> we're following breaking news out of texas. a hot air balloon carrying at least 16 people has crashed. we'll have m

about the situation in ukraine and the minsk agreement between ukraine and russia to try to bring aboutend of the tensions in the east of ukraine and allow ukraine to control its borders, its own international borders all the way along the border with russia. so a lot to get through here before president obama then moves on. now not to seville but to madrid allowing him to cut short this trip returning back to washington late, late sunday. natalie? >> yes. his last trip to europe as president. all right. nic robertson for us there in warsaw. thank you. >>> a super typhoon has been downgraded now to a tropical storm as it moves from taiwan toward china. before it weakened the typhoon killed at least three people and injured more than 140. the storm battered taiwan's eastern coast, leaving a path of destruction as it swept the shore. more than 16,000 people forced to leave their homes in that one. >>> ahead here, the dallas police chief says he is heartbroken over the ambush that killed five of his officers. he's endured some personal tragedies of his own during his 30 years on the force.

the lessons of ukraine have been learned.of hybrid tactics will be the exact same as the tactics we saw in the ukraine. it is important to develop and the alliance and agility of response to that to be able to respond next time we see these kind of tactics. the strategy of country hybrid workfare at the end of last year, there is an implementation plan. it is now being agreed and there was a joint declaration at the warsaw summit between the nato secretary-general and president of the european council, and the president of the getting nato, and ae eu, and whether there is role of hybrid warfare, getting them to work much more closely on a coordinated approach between the two different institutions. dealing with prevention and detection and analysis and information sharing of hybrid warfare. cooperating on the response which is strategic messaging. communications. and building better resilience on the harding -- on hardening the targets. those institutions of our state states that are most likely than -- most likely to be vuln

we want us to get past our disagreement over ukraine where they are simply going to keep the territory that they have. they don't want to be punished for that with sanctions and isolation and raising the ante, the risk on military confrontation, including the nuclear issue, they are rattling the nuclear saber, forces us back to the table with them whether we like it or not. fernando: and economically, russia is doing quite poorly, primarily because of petroleum sales being down. there was a report that their sovereign funds are being depleted as they are paying for basic needs. how sustainable is a russian military threat against nato? matt: i'd say that depends on whether you are looking at the short term, middle term or long term. in the short or middle term, i wouldn't hold your breath. it's like mark twain said, rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated. fernando: so they have enough stuff. matt: it's not what it could be, but it's not revolutionary records of poverty and suffering. fernando: right, right. and so, we are moving troops to nato primarily the us, but canada, the uk,

and the ukraine alone?became serious when donald trump was asked about it. >> we'll be looking at that. yeah. we'll be looking. >> reporter: a point reiterated when trump's campaign reportedly changed the republican party platform to take a much more pro-russian view of the ukraine confli conflict. >> there's a lot of this coincidence that is very troubling around this specific issue, especially when you consider just how substance-free most of the other issue areas in the campaign have been. on ukraine they are taking this very firm position and it's not clear why. that i think is troubling. >> reporter: so is it really something? is donald trump really somehow connected to russian political interests, to putin and putin's view of the world? because he has an adviser that advised a ukrainian candidate six years ago? or is this all just like donald trump's business endeavors in russia? lots and lots of talk but in the end as they say in russian, nonsense. >> a lot of con fusion over donald trump's ties or n

, that despite russia having done exactly that, seizing the russian peninsula from ukraine two yearstrump today saying he has no relationship with vladimir putin. >> i have nothing to do with putin. i've never spoken to him, i know nothing about him. i was in russia recently and i spoke indirectly and directly with president putin who could not have been nicer. >> what exactly is your relationship with vladimir putin? >> i have no relationship with putin. >> then why did you say in 2013, i do have a relationship. in 2014 i spoke -- >> because he has said nice things about me over the years. i remember many years ago he said something very nice about me. i said something good about him when larry king was on. this was a long time ago. >> you said for three years, '13r '13, '14 and '15, you had a relationship with him. >> what do you call a relationship? he treats me with great respect. >> i'm asking you. >> i don't think i've ever met him. >> you would know if you did, wouldn't you? >> i think so. yeah, i think so. >> my panel is back with me again. to all of you i also want to play t

there's no question china was unhappy with the behavior in the ukraine. while china stopped short of direct criticism. fu ying in her article noted that the foreign minister ministry spokesperson in beijing spoke up saying ukraine's independent, sovereignty and territorial integrity should be respected. this was after russia had separated off crimea and joined back into the russian federation. this from china's standpoint was a horrible precedent, because when he was president in taiwan, he had come up with ideas of holding referenda on taiwan on u.n. membership for taiwan and other sensitive issues an beijing was strong ly opposed, back doorway stemming independent minded thinking in taiwan. here is russia using referendum in crimea to separate territory russia formally recognized as part of the ukraine and joining it back together with russia. so this was a bad precedent. secondly, russian armed intervention in eastern parts of the ucareen to prevent kiev from restoring central control over its eastern territories brought to mind the u.s. cia-backed int

of ukraine and representing ukraine?s the first question. is there big changes between the first copy and the latest copy between ukraine and russia? [ inaudible ] and this convention is being closely watched in ukraine and eastern europe. should people there be concerned that if trump becomes president, russia will be will corrupt its neighbors? >> well, as far as the first question is concerned, i don't understand the question. the platform results are reflected. the second part of your question, the people of the world should be concerned about what's going on in washington today. because the -- we believe that the crisis in the world today is a result of the united states not participating in a vibrant way and letting the world move leaderlessly. and mr. trump believes that a strong u.s. presence is important in the world that doesn't exist today. and to all those enemies of democracy, strong leadership by the united states is something that they should fear, and mr. trump will be a strong leader. >> last question! >

but on ukraine they are taking a firm position and it's not clear why.is troubling. >> reporter: so it really something? is donald trump really somehow connected to russian political interests, to putin and putin's view of the world? because he has an adviser that advised a ukraine an candidate six years ago or is this all just like donald trump's business endeavors in russia? lots and lots of talk but in the end as they say in russian, nonsense. drew griffin, cnn, washington. >> all right. thank you to drew there. >>> politicians spent two weeks putting on a best case for why their candidate should win. but they have not yet convinced everyone. up next, we'll talk to two people who are still undecided and we'll hear why they still have questions. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness,

what is happening in the crimea and ukraine cannot simply be forgotten. >> if i could just interject the vice-chief discussiodiscussio n and can you explain to us, please, how this rotational system will actually work in terms of the numbers why it is a rotational system to try and send a signal of assertive great permanence of troops and what it eat true to describe what you are trying to do as to make it clear to russia that there is no way in which they will be able to carry out operations in any of the baltic states and now just what they did in ukraine. >> on your on your last fight, the answer to that is explicitly yes, a show of solidarity and commitment to nato allies to those nations that feel vulnerable to exactly that sort of threat. we are describing it as an assistant presence rotating forces around. we think that is the best way to demonstrate that solidarity and we think it is the best way we can extract payback for not deployment. we are not doing that simply has to show of military force. we are doing this as a way to extract benefits by working with allies, improvin

ukraine no longer needs them and we should say that we stand with the people of ukraine and their desiref donald trump's rhetoric on russia bothered you and the idea that there's a phrase for the leadership tile. maybe not the politics but the leadership style? >> well, putin is a former jkb and never got over that. i know a will the of things about russia and putin that many 350e78 that are not privilege to the classified information don't know. i suspect to this week when he debegins to receive that he may have a different perspective on the influence in the middle east and in europe and against american interest. >> since you're talking russia and we have a strong opinion about this, i had kerry on sunday on the sunday meet the ple press, and he did not give details on the deal that's struck and russia and the united states did coordinate a little bit when it comes to isis. i said how do you trust the russians given the conflict and the diplomatic conflict and ukraine says don't trust them but you have to see how to work with them. where are you on this? >> trusting russia and syria i

the ukraine crisis and the deterioration of russia-u.s. relations provided additional momentum for closer ties between beijing and moscow. for china the crisis forced the united states to refocus at least some of its attention back to europe as pivot to asia. beijing enjoyed more space, vis-a-vis u.s. and more leverage vis-a-vis russia, vulnerability and isolation increased. in addition to strengthening china's hand in energy negotiations, moscow has become at least more -- moscow has seemed to become more willing to cooperate in sectors that were previously restricted, for example contributing statements to beijing last month as an example the two sides confirmed the progress they have made and they will make the eastern route of the sino-russian gas pipeline, which is expected by both countries to become operational in 2018. russia's largest crude oil producer also reached several deals with chinese companies including signing of 20% stake of this unit to beijing and prices, 40% stake of the eastern petrochemical to china and a joint dev

the conservative weekly standard saying that when we support ukraine, there may be troubling ties between your campaign and the putin regime. he says, the trump and manafort don't release the tax returns, wouldn't it be appropriate to check to see if putin is interfering in the current american election? how do you respond to that? >> it's pure obfuscation. they don't want to talk about what is in the e-mails. what's in the e-mails is that it's a clearly rigged system. bernie sanders never had chance. you'll see some of that resentment boiling over this week in philadelphia. wikileaks clearly uncovered what sanders has been saying and what donald trump has been saying. which is that, once again, the establishment and special interests picked their candidate, hillary clinton, and made sure nothing that the people were going to do or say was going to interfere with her selection. >> you're right. you're seeing the skirmishes on the floor this week. let me follow up on that from bill kristol who is not part of the clinton cam a pain. are there ties between you and your candidate, mr. trump,

now, after russia in 2014 annex beed ukraine's peninsula and helped the conflict in eastern ukraine but russia has said nato's decisions right now are real security set. they have said they're very unhappy about it. they're planning to bolster their own military deployments to their west. >> megan: how about britain's decision to exit the eu? how's that affected the talks? >> isn't pulling out of nato. what leaders are saying publicly is that britain is more committed than ever, but in private, a lot of people i've been talking to here say they're worried that the british decision to split from the european union say bad sign making it harder to send money on security and defense, and also distracting the policymakers over the next couple of years. >> megan: nato also announced a new effort in the mediterranean to curb the flow of migrants. can you talk a little bit about what the plan is there? >> that's right. nato is planning to send some naval vessels, nato members are going to send them there to the mediterranean where it's also considered a bit of a security set for europe because

they watch russia first invade georgia in 2008, then ukraine in 2014, and annexing crimea.e very nervous. we have seen aggressive russian behavior against the nato border, with many exercises, so the response out of nato will be to move four battalions to that area, one in each of the three baltic states, and one in poland, from the u.s., the u.k., germany, and perhaps canada. we will learn more after the summit. those forces will be the means of deterrence against russia. you will see that financed out of the summit. laura: but will that just annoy russia, and also threaten whatever cooperation there is over syria? admiral stavridis: you know, this is always the dialogue we have to have. i always say, the annoying thing was russia's invasion of ukraine, and the annexation of crimea. that's kind of beyond annoying. i think nato is rightfully stepping up deterrents. but your point is well taken, that above all we need to have an open dialogue with russia. we don't want to stumble backwards into a cold war. the nato secretary-general has opined, we need a higher level of dial

as far as the ukraine is concerned, that is a mess.of these strong ties to mess,the ukraine is a crimea has been taken. don't blame donald trump for that. "q&a," thisn journalist and author george book.l discusses his >> looking at fathering is trying to capture the complexity of human beings and fathering is tend into character and we to think that this is a bad guy or a good guide. but to see a lot of these men who have been president had different parts. some of them can be very amazing things and some could be disappointing and horrify us. >> virginia governor terry mcauliffe is our guest this week on newsmakers, a longtime confidant of the clintons and former rnc chairman. he is also now chairman of the national governors association. joining us are gabe of politico and anne of the washington post. your remarks on the transpacific partnership. were they reported correctly in the press?

we were certainly caught over ukraine in crimea. >> let me give you that assurance. we need to do more in russia but we are doing more. we are building our capability and our own standing and i certainly -- there's more to be done to continue to focus on what russia's aspirations are and to better understand how it's likely russia -- russia is likely to react and what its next moves are at home and near abroad and, indeed, in the middle east. >> then what do you expect russia's response both politically and militarily? how severe would implications for security for baltics? , do we know, do we have any idea how they're responding? >> russia's reaction has been relatively restraiped but it may not be complete yet. maybe more to come. there's been a meeting of the nato-russia councils since the summit which i hope help to explain to russia the posture of nato and russia's reaction began in response to previous announcements and in response to the completion of the ballistic missile site in romania back in may. so so far, the reaction has been relatively restraint but t

pack acts we saw in ukraine. it is important to develop and the alliance and agility of response to that to be able to respond next time we see these kind of tactics. the strategy of country hybrid workfare at the end of last year, there is an implementation plan. it is now being agreed and there was a joint declaration at the warsaw summit between the nato secretary-general and president of the european council, president of the commission in c. and getting nato out of the e.u. where there is a role because of the funds of which hybrid workfare can take in getting nato and e.u. to work much more closely on a coordinated approach between the two different institutions. dealing with prevention and protection and information sharing of hybrid workfare cooperated not the response and communications and better resilience and hardening targets. those institutions of our state states that are most likely than hybrid workfare. >> what is the next conflict in europe >> i missed the first part. >> what is your assessment

i think we should have been providing defensive weapons to ukraine.de a commitment to ukraine, as did russia, that if they disarmed, they got rid of their nuclear weapons when the soviet union broke part, we would defend their territorial integrity, ensure it. so i would like to see more robust economic support. i would like to see stronger economic sanctions against russia. i would like to see defensive weapons for ukraine. >> promise europeans won't go for that. >> it's hard, although secretary clinton has a history of being able to build strong international coalitions. >> what a pleasure to see you. thank you for your time. >> great to see you. >>> coming up, dejavu all over again. chelsea clinton, a former first daughter we all watched come of age in the white house, returns to the stage tonight. chelsea in an exclusive interview about tonight's speech, and more. >> there is so much discussion about what your dad would be called if your mom becomes the next president of the united states. have you talked about it at home? >> we have talked about

he's not going into ukraine, okay? just so you understand. he's not going to go into ukraine. all right? you can mark it down, you can put it down. >> he's already there, isn't he? >> well, he's there in a certain way, but i'm not there. you have obama there. and frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under obama, with all the strength that you're talking about and all the power of nato and all of this. in the meantime, he takes crimea, he's sort of -- >> but you said he might recognize that. >> i'm going to take a look at it. but the people of crimea, from what i've heard, would rather be with russia than where they were. >> and then there's this clarification today from republican senator jeff sessions of alabama, a senior adviser to trump. >> that's not the big issue for america today. that's not the big issue. the big issue is can we, should we be able to create a new and positive relationship with russia? i think it's un -- it makes no sense that we're at the hostility level that we are. hillary clinton tried this reset. and it failed. and we need to see what we

we also talked about ukraine, where we have another challenge that we're working on. in brussels, after brussels, we talked in london over two days in several meetings with key participants in this initiative. and in these initiatives. and then i met with the deputy crown prince of saudi arabia and the foreign minister to talk about yemen and a way forward. we met also with the egyptians and yemeratis about libya, and i think in both places we were able to chart out specific steps that we hope to be able to take in the next days that can strengthen the government of national accord in libya and begin to focus further on daesh's presence in libya. and we have some very specific agreements on what we're going to do to try to move that forward. likewise on yemen, the kuwait talks are resuming. we are pressing for steps to be taken to avoid the skirmishes on the border of skraib and yemen and steps to be specifically taken that could lay out a sequencing of the provisions that are current ly stalemated within the talks in order to break that stalemate and try to move forw

well, ukraine did, too.aving victoria newland state who they were going to put in as the president after the coup happened. hings are getting out of hand. host: do you want to pick up on ukraine? guest: well, that's that's sort of a big issue and it's not just -- i don't think you can say that ukraine is just america's fault. guest: it's interesting that hasn't been much of an issue especially since donald trump has spoken admiringly hasn't come up at all. although they'll talk about invading sovereign countries. putin went in and anesmed crimea host: i think it's possible we'll hear more. one of the things hillary clinton would like to do is push this on to the territory of foreign policy because it's somewhere -- not that i think donald trump has any strong suits particularly but at least he's a little bit stronger and is talking about the economy and how people have been screwed by trade deals and thing likes that. he is completely uncomfortable talking about foreign policy. so if she pushes it to that ar