is someone who also as we mentioned before has fallen out with his bosses in ukraine before. stripped of his passport he broke over the border to come back in and extraordinary scenes that he was running over the rooftops behind me so this is someone who really thrives in a crisis. so it's safe to say that he's not your standard politician nic why bring him into the game now. i think there's no coincidence that this is happening now at a time of extraordinary stress through code 19 millions of ukrainians have lost their jobs most have savings that will only last them a month or so those of the 4 cos and the government simply just doesn't have the cash to pay their wages as is happening in western european countries say added to that the board is a shot millions of ukrainians work in western europe and send money back to families they mostly lots of them have returned but 2000000 are estimates of return and they can't get back to work will those jobs be there for them to get when the borders reopen we don't know stress so let's get think he's he's a real gamble now is that giv

our support of every step of the terms of peace will present the last because i think that's what ukraine people and any nation will walk to the world but it takes time go to takes 2 to tango. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome. in a moment we'll move on to our main story the skyrocketing level of unemployment in the u.s. but 1st the controversy over speculation by the u.s. president that injecting disinfectant might help to cure the coronavirus now let's be clear ingesting disinfectant is extremely dangerous and will not cure the virus president donald trump made the suggestion at his daily briefing in the white house and since then he's rolled back on his comments and said he was being sarcastic but what he said went around the world and led to fierce reaction not least from medics and scientists that's here now what the president said about using disinfectant and light to defeat the virus as well as one doctor's reaction. rather that i see the disinfectant but not. in a minute when it is their way we can do something. injection . or almost a

that ukraine desperately wanted from the u.s.fact, trump specifically brought up the biden stuff right after the ukrainian president brought up that military aid in the memo, the ukrainian president said, "i would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense." and then the very next sentence out of trump's mouth was "i would like you to do us a favor, though." that is an obvious quid pro quo. the only way it's not a quid pro quo is that when it comes to committing crimes, trump is definitely not a pro, he's an idiot. [ laughter ] it's -- it's more like a quid idiot quo. [ laughter ] he literally said, "i'd like you to do us a favor." he might as well have been having this meeting at his daughter's wedding while petting a cat. [ laughter ] or if not a cat, one of his other pets [ laughter and applause dyiulia private citizen, the president's pers fishing expedition to concoct a fake scandal and get ukraine to manufacture dirt on a political opponent joe biden the fact that his name came up on this call even

the first article in it has to do with the liberation of the ukraine. the point being the significance of that is that of course one month later we had d-day. and the point -- the relationship of the soviet contribution is that as of that date, when we push and when you liberate the ukraine, you have pushed the germans out of your country. so by that point in time, one month before d-day, we had been occupying 65%, maybe, of the best german troops fighting us. if we hadn't done that, if they hadn't failed that, if we failed at moscow or stollin grad or kurtz, all of those troops could have been on normandy beaches and it could be a different outcome. and the story told is that that is a significant contribution to winning the war that needs to be, if you will, explained to us as americans because we all contributed, and there is nothing wrong with supporting as we all do, my father fought in world war ii, our contribution. but we have to understand the war as a total picture. and the eastern front, that is where we need to do it. as well as that strateg

russia has to board a separatist fighters in the eastern ukraine. is accused of tampering with the us a lecture. and of poisoning a former secret agent in a british country town. within russia there was a white range of opinion on these events but the official position is the opposite of the western view. deputy foreign minister sergei volkov deals with the russian west and relationship 1st hand. together says she's up us leave me good for this i see a loss up there with over the girl is a girl that i was to someone who hasn't been any kind to me still in these dealings but i mean. when i see if yes i would be you might. not serving as chairman good in the pre-show. jokes good dog or the you know even those who miss that miss in timea room when the. media. mcguckin at night because there are noise not i was in the cool of the bus you must be a cliche idealist creepily. years in the suspect was one with. the americans you were near to not know where she was writable got to meet new people who stated we issue we should be seeing europe with those rate

the first article in it has to do with the liberation of the ukraine. the point being, the significance of that is that, of course, one month later, we had d-day. and the point, the relationship of the soviet contribution is that as of that date, when we pushed -- when you liberated the ukraine, you have effectively pushed the germans out of your country. so, by that point in time, one month before d-day, we had been occupying 65%, maybe, of the best german troops, fighting us. if we hadn't done that, if they hadn't failed -- if we had failed at moscow or stalingrad or kirsk, all of those troops could have been on the normandy beaches, and it could have been a different outcome. so, the story that has to be told is that's a significant contribution to winning the war that needs to be, if you would, explained to us as americans, because we all contributed. and there's nothing wrong with supporting, as we all do -- my father fought in world war ii -- our contribution, but we have to understand the war as a total picture and the eastern front. that's where

privately very worried about the involvement of rudy giuliani in president trump's discussion with ukrainelso worried about rudy, children who forgot to check under the bed. [ laughter ] "he can't be here, he's on fox news." president trump this morning attempted to solidify republican support in the face of impeachment proceedings, tweeting, quote, "stick together play their game and fight hard, republicans. our country is at stake. when he goes all caps, it's got to be something serious like the future of the country or, you know, a meal [ laughter ] according to cnn, people close to president trump believe he's in denial about the gravity of impeachment, and also just regular gravity. [ laughter ] "is it me or do you guys feel the earth's pull?" [ applause ] today was lumberjack day "in that case, i'll grab my axe," said douchebags. [ laughter and applause it's not all politics. we have fun. [ laughter ] a delivery van in pennsylvania overturned on tuesday and spilled over 130,000 eggs on a highway. and in a bad sign for the climate, they were done in 30 seconds [ laughter ] today was n

firefighters in ukraine are trying to contain wildfires in several regions including an area near the churn noble exclusion zone smoke has shrouded the capital kiev raising concerns about high pollution levels a few days ago rain put out some of the blazes but new fires have broken out fanned by high winds. ukraine's battle against forest fire across the country continues emergency workers medics to contain the blazes the of the for much of power plug earlier this week but heavy winds have fed new fire is smoke from the places hasn't gold key if placing the ukrainian capital near the top of the global air pollution index in a statement the city's government said the haze was coming from the radiation contaminated exclusion so that was quickly contradicted by health officials at national level who say that there has been no radiation risk at all. with the poisoned air in care if it's not related to the fires in the train noble exclusion zone and chernobyl nuclear power plant this is a result of air movements from the jittery region where there are huge wildfires. the region of gentle m

firefighters in ukraine have renewed their battle against forest fires raging near the abandoned turn noble nuclear power plant fire crews had extinguished a blaze caused by arsonists earlier this week but new fires have now broken out the chernobyl plant was the scientific nuclear disaster of 1986. iran is the worst affected country by the coronavirus in the middle east the crisis there is spilling over into neighboring states afghanistan in particular is already ravaged by decades of war and terrorism every day afghans are returning home from iran potentially carrying the coronavirus and there's only a rudimentary health care system to treat them. hundreds of afghan migrants arrived at the islam kala border crossing every day to return to their homeland from iran. they are met by health workers who ask anyone who feels sick to identify themselves promising they will receive free medical care. that's affordable so that they get the iranian government puts 40 to 45 people in a bus when it sends them back that's in violation of the guidance from the world health organization we are ver

and i remembered seeing some news that a plane shot down over ukraine. that i 1st i thought oh it's not the deal you know but another planet and shut down. but soon obviously as everyone knows realize it wasn't a ukrainian plane and then i like everybody else was wondering what was going on them or i was watching social media and i was watching a few different feeds of news and a member i had. which is like the main russian state news channel and life news and the life news channel members stream specifically was her if they were showing the bodies it was awful should people rifling through it was just horrible horrible scene and of course you want to know who did this why did it happen and how can you bring some relief when you know justice to it. we know the trajectory we know where it came from we know the timing and it was exactly at the time that this aircraft disappeared from the radar we also know from voice identification that the separatists were bragging about shooting it down afterwards so there's a stocking here but i really want to 1st under

twice at russia attacked ukraine power grid in 2016. would you believe russia's goal was in that? was it messaging for destructive measures in ukraine or messaging to the world that had the capability? >> if it was destructive measures they certainly fell short of their goal. the first-ever publicly known blackout caused by a cyber attack it appears these attackers did less damage and they held something back which leaves the question what were they trying to do if it wasn't an all-out attack. what were they trying to do? the first is that some kind of tester finding the capability and the second is this is some kind of the signal of russia's thing to ukraine or to the world we have had this capability. the thing that you all have long feared causing a blackout was a cyber attack and we can do that was particularly remarkable especially the 2016 blackout is the tool the russians deployed to carry out the attack was automated and more scalable and it seems could work against american power system as well. that may be a suggestion not jus

the power grid in ukraine 2015-16. what do you believe russia's goal was? was it messaging? was it messaging the rest of the world they had the capability? >> if it was for distractive measures they fell short of their goal. what is a markable about 2015-16 blackouts, the first-ever publicly known blackouts caused by cyber attack is it appears the attackers did less damage, they held something back. it leaves the question what were they trying to do? if it wasn't an all-out attack what were they trying to do? there are two possibilities, the first is this was some kind of test refining the capabilities for use down the line or it sends a signal that this is russia saying to ukraine or to the world we have this capability, this thing you all have long feared, causing a blackout with a cyber attack, we can do that and what is particularly remarkable about the 2016 blackout is the tool the russians deployed to carry out the attack was automated and more scalable and it seems could work against american power systems with

speech of humans ukraine and twice that russia attacked the power red. what do you believe after all oi this, we believe the russia's goal was that was it messaging for distractive measures that they had the m camp capability. ben: if it was for distractive measures they fell short. most remarkable remarkable that the 20152016 in ukraine, they were for the caused by a cyber attack. in pierce but they did less damage than they could have. and they also bangmac and it leads to question two what were they trying to do. and i think there is two possibilities. the first is it some kind of test used in line and the second is this is a signal that this is processing to ukraine or to the world, we have this capability, this thing that you will have all long feared was a cyber attack, we can do that. let's particular remarkable especially about the 2016 blackout is it a tool the russians deployed to carry out the attack was automated and scalable it seems could work against american systems as well. that may be a suggestion not just to the ukrainians but to ameri

it was about my conversation with the president of ukraine.e took a fake report and he brought it to congress. with an emergency, okay? not a big trump fan, that i can tell you. that man is a disgrace. >> that was president trump earlier talking about his decision to remove the intelligence community's chief watch dog michael atkinson. he was responsible for flagging the ukraine whistle-blower complaint which eventually led to the president's impeachment. joining me is yamiche alcindor and frank, msnbc national security analyst. he said it was a fake report, he said he was not a big trump fan but there was no allegation of wrong doing against this inspector general for the intelligence community. >> that's right. what we saw was the president lash out at michael atkinson for effectively doing his job. he said he was a terrible person and he should not have elevated this whistle-blower complaint. but the president didn't say what the i.g. did wrong in terms of his actual duties. the president said he didn't great with the fact that he should ha

asked me to come home but i decided to stay i didn't want to bring this virus back home with me to ukraine. i was thinking about them. but not everyone stayed in the chaos of the early weeks some ukrainians grabbed the last chance to get home to their families. everyone was in a panic no one knew when the borders would be shut i just left without my stuff all i had was a small backpack. soon as i'd left they closed the borders. no one got out after me. if i just made it in italy where the virus has killed thousands of people irina worries that back home in ukraine the danger still isn't being taken seriously. here is a little they haven't understood this yet when i talk to people from back home they say there are lots of people out in the sunshine having barbecues. they just don't get it. those who fled the virus already starting to think about how they might get back to italy for many it's the only way to earn a living. to me and if i have to go back i just have to. there have been rumors that they won't open the borders again soon i've just got to hope. living here. was not going abroad

and pretending that ukraine up momentarily pausing a.t.u. crane was our biggest national security threat how laughable that was then and it's certainly laughable now with the democrats did wasting our time you know what adam should no traitor in your challenge. when adams shift even when he was still in the minority and represent daven nunez was trying to hold a hearing on the threat posed by china adam schiff hijacked those hearings to talk about russia so democrats it's very rich that their leakers in the intelligence committee community who have been talking about ukraine and russia for months are suddenly now trying to rewrite the script and pretend they were actually warning about a coming pandemic it is laughable how your example it will serve as it was in the it was in the 20000000 team threat assessment one of one threat assessment what was done about it was sponsored by the worldwide threat assessment you know it was done from the president struck signed an executive order for president transom an executive order last summer that in

quickly, i mentioned russia, ukraine was the captive there. that was standing in line which was a popular thing to do in the old soviet union, you still have to stand in line if you're going to see london. when prices are too low as they are in socialist countries sometimes you get lines in their still soviet art but we call this hung over socialism there's not socialism anymore there's no central plan or private property that has been reestablished for the most part. but it's hung over, their still suffering the after-the-fact and they have not used russia and ukraine towards economic freedom. but the country that has the republic of georgia is really not a capitalist country in economic freedom in georgia is now in the top ten highest rank countries in the world, this is me flipping the bird to stalin in the hometown and drinking some wine. in terms of alcohol theme, georgia is a great one country in soviet times they made lots of really bad wine in central planners plowed under major massive acreages in the midst branch style wine but the e

ukraine was a chapter there. that's the stand in line, standing in line with the popular thing to do in the old soviet union. guess what, you still just in line if you're going to go see linen because they don't charge for lehmans to soy prices prices are too low, sometimes you get lines. there are still some soviet art but we call this hub over socialism. there's no central plan. there's no private property. it's hung over. there still suffering the after aftereffects. they haven't moved russia and ukraine we have moved towards economic freedom but the country that has come the former soviet republic of georgia is really not a capitalist country and economic freedom of the world index that are right, georgia is now in the top ten highest ranked countries in the world. this is me flipping the bird to stall in his hometown, drinking some wine. just in terms of the all call theme, george is a great wine country and in soviet times and that lots of really bad wine the center planners plowed under massive amounts of

"700," the -- 300, the spartans held off, ukraine is very much like that for europe. russia really wants to destroy kind of democracy in the west, so so that would be their entree in. it's an interesting thing because we have these very open neo-nazis fighting for ukraine's freedom, but they're also being funded and kind of promoted by russian propaganda, things like that. it's a really dangerous thing. >> here in the -- in fact, your book you start off with a brief history of racism in america. talking about going from thehe institution of slavery, that was abolished, then you kind of recreated jim crow, that was a legal system that could be attacked legally. but in both cases, the people who were supporting, enforcing andd brutalizing were doing it with the goal of having control over someone else. >> absolutely. >> wetr were talking in the back about how this younger generation, it's almost like the violence itself was just a role. talk about them. what do they want? >> you know, it's chaos, i think, is the goal. extremism really flourisheses in times of uncertaint

in $1 million worth against the bank of bangladesh and that disinformation to the blackouts in ukraine there is plenty to talk about. understanding how cybertools are used and abused is the specialty with that analog brain a scholar to receive the phd from kings college and knows everything even more important arity said this as a former member of congress to try to ensure the technical tools were not cumbersome and then to be reviewed by experts know that kind of teaching he is doing with all the stuffers and not to know the subject or each other. and that politicians are analog but they are digital and the wilson center is trying to change that. and within the genius courtney is a correspondent covering national security and the military and has spent a lot of time reporting in the intelligence and digitalof issues we are expressing today especially election interferenc interference. did you know there's election interference? it means a lot to us to do this and take some time away from the endless conversation with the ongoinggo primary election thank you so much. >> so one little t

and in that decision he repeated a bunch of false claims about the ukraine saga. the inspector general did a terrible job because of this phony report. that whistle blower as we note was highly accurate. trump then suggested that adam schiff might have been the informant for the whistle blower. that is nonsensical. that is complete fiction. and so in addition to promoting falsehoods about the pandemic and coronavirus he also returned to falsehoods about the whole subject of ukraine impeachment. >> good point and i'm glad you bring it up because it is so important that we do bring the facts to our viewers and in real time. such a treasure to be able to do that in real time, daniel. dana did you have one last word? >> just real quick. daniel us was right lie talkilyt the things the president said about the ukraine scandal that were inaccurate. but let's just take a step back. and the notion of the president of the united states in the middle of this crisis, unprecedented crisis in the wee hours of friday night firing an inspector general who did the right thing by a

2014 winter olympics in sochi, , the annexation of crimea, stand up with the west over the war in ukraine, follow from allegations of meddling in collusion in the 2016 u.s. presidential election, at the combined total of sanctions and economic crisis. and it ordinary russians who showed no sign of some of being held against their will. these are not necessarily enthusiastic putin supporters or even people who voted for him. instead they traded the putin state as a given neither good nor bad but simply there like an element in the earth's atmosphere. and then when constructing the lives around it. governments of course exist in america and europe as all manner of external structures and constraints that people myself included must constantly navigate. the pressure conformism is universal and never present, future of existing world no matter where you find yourself. but the presence of the state and the aura of inevitability of its demand struck me as take a acute in russia. one could not live in ignorance or indifference to the urges encopresis of this diptych of fact it was to your advant

it was about my conversation with the president of ukraine.ught it to congress with an emergency, okay? not a big trump fan. that i can tell you. that man is a disgrace to i.g.s. >> that was president trump earlier talking about his decision to remove the intelligence community's chief watchdog michael atkinson. atkinson was responsible for flagging the ukraine whistle-blower complaint which eventually led to the president's impeachment. joining me now, yamiche alcindor and frank figliuzzi. yamiche, let me just start with you. he said it was a fake report. he said he was not a big trump fan. but, in fact, there was no allegation of wrongdoing against this inspector general for the intelligence community. >> that's right. what we saw was the president lash out at michael atkinson for effectively doing his job. he said he was a terrible person and he should not have elevated this whistle-blower complaint. but the president did say in particular what the i.g. did wrong in terms of his actual duties. what the president did say is that he didn't ag

rage near the site of the world's worst nuclear accident causing pollution levels to soar war in ukraine. the air. thank you very much for joining us in many ways they've been the forgotten victims of the coronavirus pandemic but now the impact of the outbreak on elderly people living in camps is becoming fully apparent and is fears many deaths is still going on reported a survey in new york state has found 90 nursing homes reported 20 or more deaths in recent weeks but the report only included a fraction of facilities in the states where the figure is believed to be in the thousands and much higher nationally in canada a nursing home near montreal is under investigation after $31.00 deaths were in ca uncovered that authorities found other residents in and fed in their beds after some staff fled the facility in the u.k. many deaths in care homes aren't included in official figures it's estimated they could be as high as $7500.00 health workers if they did for more protective equipment to keep themselves and residents safe and they need to. the the military blocked off a nursing home near