remains of human bodies, just like that, and exactly, i would say, mutual between the ukrainian institute of national memory, that is, the main institution that has authority in those sensitive questions, for example, questions and exhumations of victims of wars and repressions, and with polish , which accordingly has the following in poland. would be to remove some responsibility from the cries of historians, yes, because here we are talking about exhumation, that is, it is about certain investigative procedures, i.e. the results of which must be recorded, and we understand that this matter could perhaps move from its place in its practical aspect, if a suitable, i don't know, joint institution would appear, or were authorized by the governments, by the cabinets of ministers . for example, poland and ukraine, which could take over the regulation of relevant problems related to national legislation, so we understand that the legislation in both ukraine and poland is extremely rich, yes, but we need to move quite quickly, well that's it could be this proposal that you anton proposed as one of the ways to get

of human bodies, just like that, and exactly, i would say, exchanged between the ukrainian institute of national memory, that is, the main institution that has the authority to those sensitive questions, for example, the questioners and eskumas of victims of wars and repression, and with the polish institute of national memory, which, accordingly , has in poland yes... it would be worthwhile to remove a certain responsibility from the shoulders of historians, yes, because here we are talking about exhumation, i.e. it is about certain investigative procedures, that is, the results of which must be recorded, and we understand that this case could possibly move from its place in its practical aspect, if a suitable, i don't know, joint institution would appear, or if governments were authorized , from the minister's offices. for example, poland and ukraine, which could undertake the regulation of relevant problems related to national legislation, we understand that the legislation is also in ukraine. and in poland it is extremely rich, yes, but we have to move quite quickly, well, this could be the proposa

that it is the ukrainian institute of national memory that has fundamental problems to understand the political weight of this problem. i will not say this about ukrainian diplomacy, which is trying, trying and trying, by the way, and in 2017, when this problem arose at all, it tried to find ways to end this problem, which, i think, almost no one in ukraine understands. and this is a huge problem, and perhaps it would really be worthwhile to remove some responsibility from the shoulders of historians, because here we are talking about exhumans. that is, it is about certain investigative procedures, i.e., the results of which must be recorded, and we understand that this case could possibly move from its place in its practical aspect, if a suitable, i don't know, joint institution would appear, or if governments, cabinets were authorized ministers, for example, of poland and ukraine, who could undertake the regulation of relevant problems related to the national. legislation, we understand that the legislation in both ukraine and poland is extremely rich, yes, and we need to move quite

one of the parties, which today is de facto in the coalition, at the same time the ukrainian institute of national memoryplans to include work on the search and exhumation of the remains of poles in the rivne region. in 2025, responding to the relevant requests of polish citizens, the head of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance , anton drobovych, asked the government for 1 million hryvnias for a separate program for search operations as part of the exhumation of the victims of the volyn tragedy, and mr. sikorskyi himself, this is the ministry of foreign affairs of the republic poland on polish radio also commented on the conflict, with volodymyr zelensky around the actual issue of the volyn tragedy during their meeting in september, foreign media wrote about it, let's listen. was there really a conflict when you spoke with him a few weeks ago, as journalist vitol tyuras described. i can really ask rube's question. chili was an adventure? and well, this is not a very good ending, well, first of all, you need to understand that this is not happening now, it is happening systematically and consi

of the memory of the victims of the volyn tragedy. in response to the requests of polish citizens, the ukrainian institute of national remembrance is goingbegin work on the search and exhumation of the remains of poles in the rivne region in 2025. the department noted that if polish citizens can clarify potential places for searching for remains, the institute of the national will try to help them despite the war and difficult economic situation. in poland received several statements from leading politicians that ukraine will not start the process of joining the eu without solving the issue of the volyn exhumations. poland will preside over the eu in the first half of next year. it became known about the step forward in warsaw also against the background of the visit of the minister of foreign affairs andrii sybiga to poland this week. the minister told radio svoboda that kyiv is ready to solve more complex issues of relations with warsaw. we have enough political will and diplomatic pressure to resolve any and including the most difficult issues, above all, including with our closest allies, friends, poles, because we will talk about th

former director of the institute of national memory of ukraine, and now deputy volodymyr vyetrovych, told voice of america about this, so i would like some voice from polish, from ukrainiano be heard side, maybe in a joint one, well, on the subject, excuse me, calm down, now is not the time. in order to raise the issue of the past conflict and use it to spoil relations now, because this is how war is now, we are often told, even you quoted, that... colleagues believe that we do not fully understand our western neighbors, they also obviously do not fully understand us, given the conditions under which this pressure is exerted, that is , we, we do not live in the conditions of a peaceful poland at all, each of us with whom we enter into this dialogue, he does not know whether he will survive until the evening, that is, these are completely different conditions, and when in such conditions, instead of hearing about some kind of support, or even just not hearing any demands, when we hear from our western neighbors that you have to look at our history as we see fit, well, excuse me, but it reminds us very much of the same thing that we heard from the east, that is why it is o

our institute of national memory that we already allow exhumation, i don't know why it was prohibited for so long to exhume the victims of the volyn tragedy, to explain simply for those ukrainianst understand what the volyn tragedy is and know, except for this phrase that volyn is different and that's all, i'll start with the new minister, of course it's good that he considers it an important and priority issue polish-ukrainian suus. it indeed, it is our western ally, one of the closest, and accordingly, we definitely need to settle those misunderstandings, another strange thing is that every minister, every representative is new. the new representative of power, who comes to his position, believes that everything that was done before was wrong, i will do it now, i will do it right now. it seems to me that this is precisely where all the inconsistencies lie, and what is hidden is that for our western partners in this particular issue, the issue of honoring the dead on both sides, and not only from the polish side, it is more convenient and easier for them now to simply not comply with the obligations assumed, that is , it is easier from the polish side, instead of complying wit