is pillows give you support here and here, and nothing where your c1 and 2 is, your axis and your ulna. those are critical to snoring, to central sleep apnea, all these different things that--you need support in your neck. this one here--and also, you need to be kept cool. this one here will heat up. it will also become a hard surface, and it's no good. (laughter) >> what about this one? >> this one here has ruined america. >> oh, my god. >> we've all slept on this. there's no support. >> absolutely. >> this has done more for bad sleep deprivation than anything anywhere. and the other thing, too, you know, you wash these pillows and, you know, how they ball up in the washer and dryer? >> yeah, yeah. >> the big pillow company wants you buying more and more pillows. and they don't care about your health. they don't care about our sleep. they don't care that we keep buying pillows over and over and over again. i just wanted some sleep, and i did something about it. and this pillow here, i can't say enough bad things about it. terrible, terrible. >> mike, i love your pillow. it has a great