. >> i was in awe of this awesome ,uman being i had worked for that i had read so much about, that i had educated others in the california legislature, that that ione to jail for, had rallied on college campuses for, and all of a sudden, when he landed, in los angeles, when we created the big welcome event for him, there he was, and i was dumbstruck. i was in all of him, and, of course, you know, there is no one else like him. >> congresswoman, someone -- the emancipation proclamation took a long time to come to fruition. we move from the civil war into the 1960's. that is our experience. there is a different south african experience. thesimilar or different is black experience in south africa, versus the united states? >> apartheid in south africa was the worst kind of oppression you could ever imagine. not only did you have people who to areas fard outside of the main cities of south africa, who lived in shanties, one water fountain that served thousands and people brown, or white, and if you fell in the black category or the brown category, you simply could not be educated, you si